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van hiove-uytterheven /gabby/taunbengesundheitsdienst

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In Holland the best are as follows

 

Sprint,

Verkerk, Peter Van De Merwe, Jan Karstons, W Klaverstijn, Van Doorn, Gert Munnink, Fran Zwols. Jan Ouwerkerk, F Strijkers.

 

Middle

Koopmans, Sangers, Piet Van De Merwe, Van Den Berg and Zn, Shroevers, Bosua, Harm Vermveld.

 

Long Distance

Polder, Van Domelon, Bruggeman, Raymond Moleveld, Chris Van De Velden, Wim Van De Velden, Wijnands G Van Tuyl etc

 

I know you wont know all the names but they are all super flyers!!!!!!!

 

Stuart

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Peter Van De Merwe might have something to say about that mike, not much between them and Peter is sending 1/2 the number of birds!!! But for sure they are both at the very top of dutch sprint racing.

 

Stuart

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Mike, and Stuart.

 

What about Bert Brasspenning?

 

 

Thank you all for your comments...

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Sorry to tell you mate he is an English thing!!!! He doesnt rate in the current dutch scene!!! Most people wouldnt even know who he was!!! He was good along time ago!!!!

 

This year he sold one of his racing hens to a guy in Bristol for £500 and told him she was a star, he asked me to take a look at the pedigree and race record, it turns out in 3 years of racing she didnt even finish in the top 10 of the club!!!!!

 

He is a wiser man now ;)

 

Stuart

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In Holland the best are as follows

 

Sprint,

Verkerk, Peter Van De Merwe, Jan Karstons, W Klaverstijn, Van Doorn, Gert Munnink, Fran Zwols. Jan Ouwerkerk, F Strijkers.

 

Middle

Koopmans, Sangers, Piet Van De Merwe, Van Den Berg and Zn, Shroevers, Bosua, Harm Vermveld.

 

Long Distance

Polder, Van Domelon, Bruggeman, Raymond Moleveld, Chris Van De Velden, Wim Van De Velden, Wijnands G Van Tuyl etc

 

I know you wont know all the names but they are all super flyers!!!!!!!

 

Stuart

 

 

Thank you  :) - that's what i want to know about....                  

 

Does Piet Van De Merwe fly the blacks?

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yes he has some super blacks, there are other good flyers of all distances both in belgium and holland who dont enter the nom races who have outstanding results as for bert brasspenning nowdays seems to sell more off his reputation than his results in england as ive been told off my dutch friends

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rockinrick...good point also no channel to fly  i think the ace flyers would still be good here but everyone seems to ignore how bloody good the flyers here ,i think our best out there would compete at the top level in holland with no problems at all infact id go as far as to say they would become superstars over there....mick

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Seems the pack is being followed.

Many greats are not heard of that supply these NAMES with the stock and birds. Stu and co should know this. Also Haven't seen any of the Greats that are out of 'Location' being given a mention!

So follow the Feather Sellars, and position. YYes it goes with out saying these names are class acts... but the best....

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Roland, just telling how it is, the results are there to see and read by all!!!!!!!

 

Stuart

 

P.S. Roland i dont sell birds for anyone in the list other than Raymond, who won 1st Nat St Vincent 37,000b and 1st NPO Brive 7500b in the last few years plus 2nd NPO 28,000b and 1st Combine 11,236b this season!!! My veiw was asked and given!!!

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My Opionion on top Fanciers past & present

 

Jos Van Limpt De Klak, Holland

 

Janssen Brothers, Arendonk, Belgium

 

Meulemans, Arendonk, Belgium

 

Louis Van Loon, Belgium

 

Albert Marcellis, Belgium

 

Gaby Vandenabeele, Belgium

 

Dirk Van Dyck, Belgium

 

G&S Verkerk, Holland

 

 

THE THREE TOP STARS I BELEIVE ARE: Jos Van Limpt De Klak, Janssen Bros & Louis Van Loon

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Stu That wasn't the point I was making, and as person that sells pigeons I regard you personally, from what I have heard, that you are one of the better ones by far... and genuine. One for instance that will put forward for a good cause without looking for the AD andslap on the back.

I for instance know of serveral real great breeders that has bred and who in fact supply many of the so called grat names ... yes they can do well with the birds etc. But that be as it may, many aren't known possibly by most here for instance. And as such though very good birds they breed, with their name thay would sell much say over here... but under another well known name that flew them well...

Likewise, the Netherlands are  / have been possiblely the best distance flyers for some time now, especially when one looks at the performances in regards of ratio in birds sent. Then the Kipps Brothers!They must be the most fornominal of flyers... 17 timed in from Barcelona after dark to win! 3 in a minute at 1 02... then 1 03 /04 etc. 17 before 1 20 in the morning. Those putting names up know of Kipps brothers etc. is all I am saying, and many truely greats are missing ... but then they are selling feathers I suppose.

And another thing, argueably the best birds of europe, the Continent are over here... regardless whether still advertised and sold as still there.

Then the So call Fellows that import rings and sell as ...

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