carl Posted December 29, 2006 Report Posted December 29, 2006 Just a question How much help do you have at the lofts.I fly as a partnership with my brother on paper,but do all loft chores on my own,not saying my partners lazy or i mind doing things,i have his name on the partnership so when i go away etc he can help me out,which he does.The lofts are mine so he is helping in a way. The reason im asking the question is i do somtimes find it hard and think if i had a dedicated partner 50/50 the results would be even better,and things alot easyer whats your views could you do it on your own
friendsloft Posted December 29, 2006 Report Posted December 29, 2006 I fly on my own,it is hardwork ,i did have apartner once only saw him on race days when he tried to take over it didnt last long,will never take another partner. friendsloft
schyphos Posted December 29, 2006 Report Posted December 29, 2006 Can sympathise with both your comments.I flew on my own many years ago but due to work commitments,never really gave the birds enough attention.When i gave up the birds 12 years ago,i vowed that if i ever started again it would be in a partnership.So much easier sharing the cleaning out,training etc,also i could afford "better stock" because all monies were split down the middle.Well October 2005 i approached a friend who raced locally about forming a partnership.The agreement was we split everything down the middle,everything would be discussed before any decisions made.What a bad mistake i had made going in with this guy.Firstly the lofts were leaking badly,and in a right state.The birds were in a very poor condition,there were 310 birds on site and the guy was only racing 4 of them,he didn't have a clue about the history of the other birds.After lots of work,all done by me of course, we managed to have an old bird race team of 20 cocks and hens on roundabout.12 pairs of stock of which we did not know the origin.From these we bred 42 y.b's.The other pigeons were all "disposed of".We managed to win 6 x 1st prizes,2 with o.b's and 4 with y.b's.But it was very hard work.I was going to the lofts each day and doing everything,sometimes my partner,who lived on site,never even came to the loft.I vowed to go out and purchase the best stock i could obtain,and after a lot of searching,travelling to top lofts all over Europe and spending a lot of money,I finally have what i want.I still rarely see my partner at the loft and still to see some of the money owed for the stock birds.Needless to say i now have my house up for sale and will buy a property suitable to race pigeons from on my own.Guess my partnership just didn't work.But if you get one that does,you will be formidable flyers.Best of luck to all partnerships. And a Happy New Year to you all...................Jim
ACE LOFTS Posted December 29, 2006 Report Posted December 29, 2006 there are 3 of us in our partnership, our advice would always be to a new commer get your self a partner. we realy admire people who fly on there own and still get the results.
ACE LOFTS Posted December 29, 2006 Report Posted December 29, 2006 i feel for u schycos we do have our ups and downs but we come to a decetion at the end of the day, we always vote and that always helps, but we all no that the birds are 1st priority b 4 any thing els.
carl Posted December 29, 2006 Author Report Posted December 29, 2006 on my own bit more info paulo,do you find it easy flying on your own ?. Thanks for the reply guys
Guest Posted December 29, 2006 Report Posted December 29, 2006 I fly in partnership BUT we each have our own loft. We share everything, ideas, methods, train, breed from the same birds, but have to do everything as individuals!!
Guest CS Posted December 29, 2006 Report Posted December 29, 2006 Carl, I and my dad used to be panthership, but now we are flying on own,,,in the same lofts and same club.... we are helping each other...
Guest jason Posted December 29, 2006 Report Posted December 29, 2006 me and the wife, but we do fall out regularly ;D ;D
NANCYVIEWLOFTS Posted December 29, 2006 Report Posted December 29, 2006 myself and linda she is the one who does the cleaning out and the training also the exercising and the motavating she also pays for everything but i have to carry the basket to the car never mind i may be able to get someone to help her do this
schouwman71 Posted December 29, 2006 Report Posted December 29, 2006 me & my wife,its agood partnership as she leaves all the thinking to me,she tends to pick out the pool pigeons though.
Guest Posted December 29, 2006 Report Posted December 29, 2006 i race on my own but do have a helper in my wife,without her i wouldnt be half the flyer i am not saying that im any good btw lol. she cleans the birds out and knows when and how to ring and wot to feed the birds when and where . we train together and she also helps on race day. she was awful upset when i returned home after topping the fed and i told next doors wife about it as i got out of my car, i could hear the wifes fist clenching waiting for me lol..in her book she should have been told first...that was the 1st lesson i learned lol. i try to make sure ppl know that she is a big part in any glory or not i get in racing. although she does her part ,the final discision is mine,so only 50% is down to me the other is hers.....paul
Roland Posted December 29, 2006 Report Posted December 29, 2006 I am entirely on my own ... Misses is anti lol. I fly both North and South, and am in 5 So called nationals... Granted training is no prob as they go when ever I travel anywhere. South Rd club is nigh 20 miles away and one North Rd 12 and the other 7 miles aways... no duplications ... heard I can, but rather send both clubs and support them all. Fridays are hectic... especially as most Fridays I have to leave mid afternoon to go work. No one is prepared to look after or take my birds ... all ofer of course but have excuses on day. Even when I am raise a lot of money for the clubs, many don't attend or support ... That costs me in real terms about £150 out of my own pocket after I take time out from a gig, or pay someone to stand in for me. Do I mind! Only when the spouters, the corridor politics dig in and the wealthy contrive to make things better for themselves ayt us working men, and old age pensioners costs. Well I am changing my full flying membership to a honoury - none flying member. I've resigned from all South road clubs, and will be concentrating on just the North Rd clubs. Would I like a partner.... might, but she'll have to spend a lot of time in the loft with me etc. lol. Other than that I envisage conflict... which could lead to a break up and another flying member somewhere lol, so the bands out at the moment lol.
carl Posted December 29, 2006 Author Report Posted December 29, 2006 myself and linda she is the one who does the cleaning out and the training also the exercising and the motavating she also pays for everything but i have to carry the basket to the car never mind i may be able to get someone to help her do this THATS THE KIND OF PARTNER I NEED ;) thanks for the replys ,all good posts people
mulberrylofts Posted December 29, 2006 Report Posted December 29, 2006 I am in a partnership with my husband Paul. Have to say I used to do a lot but now don't do a lot, however I wish to rectify that ASAP. I work shifts and sometimes find it difficult to get into a daily routine of doing things in order to help. However with all good partnerships / team working it is important that each person has clearly defined roles and repsonsibilities. With the ability also to be able to be flexible in a task that they would not normally do. I was faced with that over 18months ago when Paul was suddenly taken ill, I was then doing tasks I had never done before (Paul was in hospital writing everthing down for me to do each day!) and it was real hard work, we were doing the roundabout system it was the end of March and everthing was in full swing with them and the young birds, to say I was knackered is an understatment! However as with all team working relationships they require hard work and dedication to each other, knowing who is good at what and learning to listen to each other...... ;D ;D ;D
carl Posted December 30, 2006 Author Report Posted December 30, 2006 im in a partnership with my dad. Never westy realy,,,i thought your dad done all the work .How is the partnership westy,who does what. thanks carl
Guest Paulo Posted January 2, 2007 Report Posted January 2, 2007 bit more info paulo,do you find it easy flying on your own ?. Thanks for the reply guys Just starting to fly YB's this year Carl. Come from a pigeon racing family so have been involved with them all my life. Reckon it will be quite hard as you have to do everything yourself. However I reckon if I put in a lot of hard work I will get rewards from it. Not expecting to win this year just have fun and learn from the birds. The top man in our club has himself, another partner, and a bloke he pays to look after the birds during the week. Must be nice eh lol. Already finding being on your own handicaps you a bit for example I can't fly darkness because of my hours of work. Still its all about finding a system to suit yourself and the birds isn't it! Theres many ways to success thats the great thing about pigeon racing. Finance is also a problem because you are paying for everything yourself as well.
westy Posted January 2, 2007 Report Posted January 2, 2007 Never westy realy,,,i thought your dad done all the work .How is the partnership westy,who does what. thanks carl well partnership is well dad does all the paperwork, pairings, training while i do the racing and the feeding cleanin ect it works well it does as dad works 9-5 and im at school.
barlbylofts Posted January 2, 2007 Report Posted January 2, 2007 i fly on my own to. but saying that i work long hrs and my wife do most of the work for me these days, which is a good thing if she didnt i wouldnt have the time to keep them so a big thank you to my wife for do a lot of hard work.
Roland Posted January 2, 2007 Report Posted January 2, 2007 Nice to see her in doors appreciated.... My misses is frightened if the flutter let alone fly ... won't go near the loft. That is also probably a good thing lol.
Keepsmilingqueen Posted January 2, 2007 Report Posted January 2, 2007 i was in partnership with my dad, tho i wasnt mentioned in the flying name oh no ;D i was the slave in the background who did all the loft cleaning basketing, paperwork and general dogsbodying and of course as a result got all the blame when things went pear shaped *cough* but i loved the birds and kept them on after his death last year, but i miss having someone to turn to for advice and find pinpointing what to send to race, how to choose when pairing up, and how the pooling system works all very mystifying that was my partners job
maverick Posted January 2, 2007 Report Posted January 2, 2007 i fly in partnership with the wife in name but last year she got a team of young birds for herself, the worst thing i ever let her do boys as she beat me in all young bird races bar one, she got a pair from clockman, one 999 is its ring No won 3 races for her the other one won a race as well. in one race in particular i sent 23 birds she sent 6 and had the first 4 home taking the first 3 in the club. OH I WISH I HAD NOT LET HER GO ON HER OWN NOW SHE BEATS ME IN THE ONLINE SHOW I GIVE UP .
Pompey Mick Posted January 2, 2007 Report Posted January 2, 2007 I fly on my own but I am very lucky in that my wife does an awful lot of work for me during the day when I am at work. I relly don't think I could compete without her help. She looks after the YBs entirely during their formative months, ringing them, having them out during the day allowing me to concentrate on the OB Racers when I get home from work. As YB racing approaches I do get more involved especially with their schooling. Without her it would be an impossible chore as I am away at work for a minimum of 12hrs a day normally. When I used to work Sat morning she clocked in as well.
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