Is it wrong?

[maverick]

birds can be checked now for parentage through D.N.A. Idont know the cost but it can be done, i think it is only a matter of time before some conman fancier is caught out regarding parentage of birds

[pigeonscout]

I don't think it should matter if you have stock lofts in your back garden or the other side of the world. If a fancier has stock birds in uk and they are still in his name then I see no problem with the young birds having his rings on them. At the end of the day you buy the bird and its pedigree not its ring. I can ring my birds with GB or IHU rings. If the person is in partnership with a dutch fancier then I cannot see how you can stop him putting dutch rings on. If he it breeding the dutch fanciers stock bird here in uk and the dutch fancier wants his own rings on them how can you stop him. They could be for sale or go back to Holland to race who knows.

[pigeonscout]

A ford is a ford no matter what plates are on it.

[Guest]

I personally think it is wrong unless the buyer has been informed of where they were bred, however as a novice and a relative newcomer i wouldnt want to race foriegn rung birds its hard enough getting the GB rung ones reported instead of going straight into someone elses stock loft, ive heard fanciers get excited about getting a foreign rung pigeon in they say thats going in my stock loft. One point on the stray front from a novice if the pigeon is that good why is it a stray and not back at its own loft

[gangster]

A ford is a ford no matter what plates are on it.

 

NOT IF YOU BUY IT OFF ME IT AINT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;) ;) ;) ;)

[ALF]

 

Not another Arthur Daley  ;D ;D ;D

 

NAW ANOTHER DEL BOY ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[pigeonscout]

ganster the english are buying of the dutch the dutch are buying of the Irish and the Irish are buying from the english who have dutch stock.

[ticeye]

Mick

 

Masserrella did at the Savoy

 

their birds are rung with MFC rings which i think are distributed mid november

these birds that were sold at blackpool did it give a british or dutch name and address on the pedigree

[THE FIFER]

scottish fanciers can ring with GB rings and vice versa, nothing to say a bird rung with GB is bred in england or a bird with SU bred in scotland,

[Guest]

any one who buys just because its a dutch /belg etc gets what thy deserve but the person decieving them should be sorted out but pigeon men generally buy any thing as someone said on an early post would you buy a car from Arthor Daily  we just seem to trust the word without even knowing any thing about the seller lets face it we have all done it

[ray]

 

at the end of the day they are conning the british pigeon fancier, so it should be nipped in the bud, these people are con artistes, hooks and rogues thats all it boils down too, there birds mustn't be good enough with there own rings on, they should be reported, ray

[Guest CS]

These pigeons were bred in England and should be rung accordingly!!!!

[jimmy white]

Completely out of order and should be stopped in my eyes it is deception

AGREE, ABOUT RINGING WITH CONTINENTAL RINGS BUT DIFFERANT WITH UK RINGS IE SHU, GB ETC ETC ,,,,THE THING THAT BEATS ME IS WHY DO FANCIERS THINK THESE BIRDS ARE BETTER JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE A BELGE OR NL RING ON

[pigeonscout]

Jimmy it does not matter what the bird looks like or what way it was bred it could have 4 legs two heads and one wing if it has a foreign ring on its leg it must be a good bird that's how some fanciers think.

[gangster]

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NAW ANOTHER DEL BOY ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[westy]

it should be stoped.

[Guest coxy]

its depends upto what they wer being advertised as but i can see ur point to me its fraud making them out to b sumthin at they aint and making money out of it

[jimmy_bulger]

if the birds were sold as direct dutch stock (meaning directly from holland) then they turn out to be direct uk stock with dutch rings on then that is fraud and there is an rpra rule about bringing the sport into disrepute.

so were they sold as direct dutch stock or not.?

jimmy.

[pigeonscout]

who was selling them? and who do you know they where bred in uk?

[Guest coxy]

NAME AND SHAME THE GUY

[Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS]

you are aloud to use the rings for your own use but not to sell em with

[mark163]

agree with coxy name and shame them its not on

[westy]

yes name and shame him