YB Sickness.

[Guest CS]

Do you know how to stop getting YBs sickness?????, and what is the best treatment to use for YBs?.

 

A lot of fanciers have a problems with YBs sickness ever year, mines ybs have not sickness this year (finger crossed)

[Guest TAMMY_1]

SUREFIRE WAY NOT TO GET YOUNG BIRD SICKNESS IS DONT KEEP YOUNG BIRDS

[stevebelbin]

Cider vinegar in water every day and probiotics or strike if dropping appear watery

[Guest]

Cider vinegar in water every day and probiotics or strike if dropping appear watery

 

Bang on Steve!

[frank-123]

would you not over do it cider vinegar everyday i use it not everyday though maybe twice a week

i have had Yb  sickness before not a pretty site

i now feed my Yb's Gerry plus as it is more digestible garlic twice a week vinegar twice a week then plain water the other days

[Roland]

I like a little garden lime sprinkled in and allowed to set ove night. And no I don't believe - like a lot of others - that it attracts E.Coli.... it has a very soothing effect andhence they don't get anxous for starters.   Just watch the pigeons pick between the bricks for lime, when available.

[crazy pigeon boy]

elder berry juice is good for preventing yb sickness  

[jordanp31]

How do you now if your birds have yb sickness  ??)

[chickadee]

I like a little garden lime sprinkled in and allowed to set ove night. And no I don't believe - like a lot of others - that it attracts E.Coli.... it has a very soothing effect andhence they don't get anxous for starters.   Just watch the pigeons pick between the bricks for lime, when available.

 

We put a little bit of garden lime in with their minerals and they love it. ;D ;D

[jimmy white]

the less stress the better [ i,e overcrowding ] every thing clean disenfected from the word go , clean water , all add to avoiding this sickness

[Wiley]

cider vinegar twice a week here

[Guest TAMMY_1]

How do you now if your birds have yb sickness  ??)

 

the first sign that i knew the birds  had it was the birds just stoped flying . period, and then they will start to bring their food back up in their nestboxes and the droppings will be slimey lime green

[batusai]

How do i use cider vinegar? I mean what time is ideal?

 

 

thanks!

batusai!

Philippines

[Guest TAMMY_1]

How do i use cider vinegar? I mean what time is ideal?

 

 

thanks!

batusai!

Philippines

 

what i do now is put three cloves of garlic in a bottle of cider vinegar and and i use two corkfuls of this in a five pint drinker twice a week for young birds and once a week for old birds

[blackjack]

I would try garden lime on the floor im quite lucky ive only had the odd bit of crop retention .

[Guest TAMMY_1]

I would try garden lime on the floor im quite lucky ive only had the odd bit of crop retention .

 

I think Bruno posted somewhere , maybe somebody else not absolutely sure, but putting garden lime on the floor had a detrimental effect on the birds and did more harm than good

[Williedoo]

 

This is only my take on yb sickness and I think it has something to do with PMV

vaccination.

This is why I vaccinate ybs the same day I take them from the nest.

Ive never had it but some Fed members did a couple of years ago.

It seemed to be mostly members who put off vaccinating their ybs till just before  the yb racing.

My thoughts on this was,were the ybs getting something from the obs due to them being vaccinated year in year out and these fanciers leaving their ybs for months before vaccination.

I might be talking rubbish.

[Guest TAMMY_1]

This is only my take on yb sickness and I think it has something to do with PMV

vaccination.

This is why I vaccinate ybs the same day I take them from the nest.

Ive never had it but some Fed members did a couple of years ago.

It seemed to be mostly members who put off vaccinating their ybs till just before  the yb racing.

My thoughts on this was,were the ybs getting something from the obs due to them being vaccinated year in year out and these fanciers leaving their ybs for months before vaccination.

I might be talking rubbish.

 

a lot of people have the same thinking on this williedoo, this is the first year i have vaccinated my birds as they were leaving the nest, I was one who would have waited and vacinated before racing and did have young bird sickness a couple of times over the years but it was in birds that i was given as gifts , some gift.

[Guest]

Willie doo and Tam , i remember a loft report reading Porter & Richardson , (good fliers) wher they said had both yb sickness and some losses most years , by chance vaccinated ybs very early in one year ..... no yb sickness and minimal losses ? so continued that way since . ive have had mine jagged early this time also ??   wait and see ??        andy  

[jimmy white]

each yb season we can see an increase in disease involving e,coli. ,, e, coli is a normal inhabitant of the digestive system of pigeons,  it has disease potential, but usualy needs a predisposing condition to allow it to cause infection,, several things" can open the door" for e coli disease.

 

stress, viral infections, intestinal parasites, andother irritants of the bowel such as chemicals while feilding. the usual predisposing factor for yb adenovirus.   it begins appearing when birds are mixed, either in  training, races or when birds accumulating fom various sources.

 

the adenovirus by itself will not cause disease, but in the presence of e, coli,,,it allows the e, coli. tocause the disease,, treating e,coli infection usually eliminates symtoms, allthough it does nothing for the adenovirus infection, this is usually conquered by the birds own immune system with time. there is not an effective vaccine for adenocirus, so we must let it run its course as wetry to control the e.coli during outbreaks.

usually during outbreaks of e coli infection , we use a broad spectrum antibiotic such as amoxicillan to control it, antibiotics will not prevent it so only use them during an out break,,,,the symptoms usualy include vomiting in some birds, abnormal droppings or diarrhea, and lethargy.

 

the birds will not raceor train well during an uncontrolled outbreak, a faecal culture and sensitivity study will allow one to choose the correct antibiotic to use, often ,we just just go with one that has a" good track record" and this has little or no effect on the birds , allowing oneto continue traning etc.

 

amoxicillan is my first choice of antibiotics when ,",shooting from the hip"it is gentle on the pigeon and is the least expensive of the goodantibiotics, use 3 grams per gallon for about 7 days,, retreatment is often necessary, as things may deteriorate within weeks after treating, as the viral infection spreads through the flock,,,,do not forget  NOT to use antibiotics as a preventative,, they will not work as a preventative, but will only allow the bacteria to become resistent to it,,,then it wont work when we really need it,,,,,,dr,david marx d.v.m.,,,,printed by doc j white m,a,d,    ;D ;D ;D    its allways an insight to this disease , and maybe some fanciers will be interested in this  

[Guest Paulo]

How do you now if your birds have yb sickness  ??)

 

they vomit piles of undigested corn out and don't digest what they have in their crop its fairly easy to spot

[jimmy white]

yes,,, and usualy they are lethargic,, lose weight and droppings can become loose ,, usualy a secondry infection takes over,i,e cocci count goes up etc , but bringing up their food is the first sign

[jimmy white]

cider vinegar twice a week here

 

in the past i  have found this can help, but would aid young birds just even giving this twice a week,, it does no harm at all