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If you want some half decent pigeons you would be far better off both results wise and money wise just contacting some of the genuine fanciers on here who are on the results sheet consistently.

 

Yes half decent being the operative word. Yes some genuine fanciers I'd trust and feel they were 100% ...  But they's probably breed you a pair only. Can't see many letting go of anything they deem as pretencious 'Breeders' of merit.

I be happy with Louella after all they have breed National and international winners for some and FED and Club winners galore for many! JMO

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well me two penneth

loella created a niche in the market cheap pigeons available almost straight away  and been bred down from the best performing birds on the planet or lofts there is no denial to this,  if you wanted pedigrees you pay for them but it is the law of averages that something will come good and when those birds do come good what price do the owners put on them ?  loella supply to demand and to think i was only a few quid behind them dreams,

and also it is good place to start for novices cheap n cheerfull to learn the ropes before they get there hands bit off , and just remember a good pigeonman can race a pigeon , any tom dick n harry with a loose wallet can home a pigeon.......

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xtccock

 

Maybe wise words maybe not! But sure as eggs are eggs pigeons that are bred from none performance and non flown pigeons will end up with a reduced homing ability.

 

Many novices get cuaght by the 99 per 6 dream but most get TROUBLE IN A BOX!!!!!!

 

There death rate is very very high!!!

 

Stuart

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hey swilcox i had a hen home from palamos this year 753mls bred from a great grand son of de barcelona+inv.spirit so no loss of homing instinct there also since 2004 i've had about 40 birds from louella and not a single 1 as died ,well not in the loft anyway, it's all down to what ind. fanciers prefer some like louella some don't

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well swilcox you have just blown the inbreeding theory right out of the water

not to mention the fact that you honestly beleive that all pigeons have to be bred out of champions to be worthy dear dear where as thou been searching.

 

just remind fanciers on this forum please how jester and carrie came about

and what they have produced, and what m+d evans say about these birds

 

£99 pound for 6 loella with no gaurentee

 

how much for 6 of yours ? and are they gaurenteed??

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JUST HAD A LOOK AT THEIR SITE LOOKS BETTER WITH THEY PICTURES SOME LOVELLY LOOKING PIGEONS ON THERE  ;)

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Yes half decent being the operative word. Yes some genuine fanciers I'd trust and feel they were 100% ...  But they's probably breed you a pair only. Can't see many letting go of anything they deem as pretencious 'Breeders' of merit.

I be happy with Louella after all they have breed National and international winners for some and FED and Club winners galore for many! JMO

 

Have none of the genuine fanciers on here bred any decent winners then?,and do you think that Mr wilcox or Louella let their best birds go either?

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Have none of the genuine fanciers on here bred any decent winners then?,and do you think that Mr wilcox or Louella let their best birds go either?

 

good point chrissy

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Thing is, how do Louella know which their best birds are, as they don't race? Logically a racing fancier will not sell their best birds unless packing up, so you have more chance of getting a good bird from Louella?

 

no

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Have none of the genuine fanciers on here bred any decent winners then?,and do you think that Mr wilcox or Louella let their best birds go either?

 

Well I'd say that ANY good breeders are kept by Both Louella and Stu.... they both want their customers to have winners.But of course there is a price that would suffice.... but I'd say out of reach of us mortal men lol

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then in that case how many birds does stu wilcocx carry /stock against results

and visa versa for loella ,

   the point been it is the law of averages ,

   a very difficult game to play , but then who is gunna deliver the day after tommorow,

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well true back garden because not all  could be bothered  to tell them the fact they still trade is a  testament cosidering the amount of flyers there is.

 

CHRISSY ..   IS IT BETTER TO BUY CHEAP REJECTS

                   OR EXPENSIVE ONES?

 

 

you are asking for advice ?

                                      you got too much money.

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No matter which you buy there is no guarentee that either will be winners.

 

Exactly and no one is ever going to sell u anything that is any good to them,but since alot of people on here can't seem to spend their money fast enough they can buy any of my racers for £200 each,hows that?.Of course none of them have flown but I'm sure they must have some vague race results back in their breeding somewhere and I know that at least 4 of them had a great,great grandmother on their fathers side that came 285th at Bacellona,they all have 2 legs and a beak,come in assorted colours and can find their way from the roof back into the loft all by themselves on a good day without a map.Will go like hot cakes on here ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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its nice to read mr s wilcoxs praises on pipa site and i qoute (READERS MAY BE INTERESTED TO KNOW THAT 1ST NATIONAL POITERS IN ENGLAND WAS A GRAND DAUGHTER OF B964605752 NADINE WHO IN TURN IS A GRAND DAUGHTER OF LAURAAT BARCELONA)  

and the apple never falls far from the tree BULLSHIT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Chrissy,

Alf Bakers birds via Louella excelled and won National in Belgium.

Our second International winner, and of course National Pau winner is pure Louella bred, from St. Vincent, Invincable spirit, Smagd 1 and 11.

and Stamvater is possiblely the greatest stud of all time, the Northern dancer of the pigeon world.

1000's of Fed winners and club winners etc. are and have been from Louella stock. Likewise most Jansenns in this country, and Bussearts etc. are from Louella stock! etc. etc.

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