louella

[nagid]

my advice would be breed as many as you can out the one you dont like and sods law they will be the ones that turn up for you ps.never fails.good luck.

[retired]

the pigeon will look gorgeous to you if it does its job i have several birds that were not to my liking they certainly are now

[nagid]

i agree they seem to grow on you when they breed winners.it looks a nice pigeon wings.what breed are they if im not being nosey

[thunderboult]

if you don't mind me asking wings what was it?strain

[wings]

The pied is a Louella Eagleson Busschaert.

The Cheq on the left is a wildermeerssh

and the other dark cheq is a Valoon/Hartog

 

Other stock in there are Houbans

[gangster]

the bird looks ok..try peanuts to try calming it down, dont forget they are in big aviarys at louella so thats probably the reason it bounces around not alot of 1  2 `1 contact probably....

[timbarra]

wings, Louella are justifed in not exchand=ging the bird for another. if it is a youngster then no reason not to i guess, but if an old bird then they probably think you have bred from it and want to change it to gain an advantage somewhere. but its just unfortunate.

 

if you think the bird is not as good as your best bird, dont break it to your loft, cull it. rubbish wont become good just because its flying out to your loft!!!

 

select your 8 best cocks for breeding and cull the rest. do the same in your race loft. you will then be raising the bar so to speak and only keeping the best.

 

spence

[timbarra]

wings,

i have seen your pic of the 4 cocks, to be honest busscharets never throw faided bar pigeons, there is janssen in it somewhere.. i believe it is not what it suppose to be but that my opinion.

 

you should study bloodlines and pedigrees and types before buying which then makes sure you get what you pay for. again if the pigeon is wild, cull it.

 

i would only have the front cheq cock, the others i would get shot of.. but thats me m8.

 

cheers spence

[wings]

Spence i will see what they breed this year and then get rid.

[timbarra]

wings, you keep what you think is right, but i select hard mate and dispose of what does not even look right. take a look at website www.timbarra.co.uk

 

 

 

 

you will see what i mean.

 

 

spence

[wings]

Had a look at the sight lots good birds. i will have to be a bit more ruthless with my selection in the future,

It will take me a very long time to get to the standard that you have achieved.

thanks again for the advice.

[Roland]

Spence I find that statement / belief hard to  swallow about not throwing that colour etc. Beauseart was renowned for using any colour and many different fancier birds. Further he even mated birds from various lofts without actually ever seeing the birds.... just the performances and speaking to the owners. So that I feel is why  his strain was A. so very good because of the Crosses, and be a wide variaty of colours no

[Merlin]

 

Try breaking him when he is driving his hen,as for culling only, if ill or aged otherwise race panniers are efficient cullers

[Fair Play]

Nice cats - but can they fly : :

[Sajfos]

The late Harry Webster had the Finest Busschaerts in England (direct) & He had odd ones in this colour .

 

Steve..

[EAGLEOWL]

i would lock it in a box ,and every time you go in the loft pick the pigeon out the box and hold him ,reassure the pigeon you mean it no harm,and it may come round to your way of thinking.

 

how anyone can look at a picture of a pigeon and say get rid is beyound me ,the pigeon tells you nothing ,only the basket or its young ones can tell you if its a good one or not, not the bird or piece of paper .

 

i have seen many great birds all come in different colours and sizes big ones tiny ones calm ones and crazy ones all where winners .

 

but ive never looked at a picture and determined it was rubbish .

 

give the bird a chance like you say its been three months before the pigeons seen you ,spend time with them also it may calm down when you pair it up.

 

the price of the bird also gaurentees you nothing if it was £1.00 or£1000

 

rome wasnt built in a day

[Guest TAMMY_1]

wings,

i have seen your pic of the 4 cocks, to be honest busscharets never throw faided bar pigeons, there is janssen in it somewhere.. i believe it is not what it suppose to be but that my opinion.

 

you should study bloodlines and pedigrees and types before buying which then makes sure you get what you pay for. again if the pigeon is wild, cull it.

i would only have the front cheq cock, the others i would get shot of.. but thats me m8.

 

cheers spence

 

WHY ?

[Roland]

Why try and break him? If for stock, then keep him for stock! Golly never judge a book by it's cover, let alone a pigeon, for they are renowned for being.... well just pigeons!

One thing for sure, a lot of good blood will be in it, and that, after all, is the essence of a good 'Stock Bird'.

[Roland]

Spence i will see what they breed this year and then get rid.

 

Why? if it breeds  good young then you will keep it. any way takes two seasons  at least, so you should at best just curb it from breeding the year after if you ain't happy... then the following season you will know, providing the matings were good and the management too lol.

[sammy]

breed from it then race its progeny and yi might find thats it s been the best buy yi will ever have no been the first and no be that last either  

[wings]

Thanks for the advice roland i will wait some time to see if its ok, i'am not in the habit of just killing birds.

[Guest TAMMY_1]

Thanks for the advice roland i will wait some time to see if its ok, i'am not in the habit of just killing birds.

 

unfortunately some are though without giving them a chance

[Guest]

Thanks for the advice roland i will wait some time to see if its ok, i'am not in the habit of just killing birds.

 

Good,nothing clever about killing them,so you bought birds unseen but you have learnt from that and at least give them a chance,for racing it's not what they look like that counts,maybe they will breed you something good,you won't know if you cull,good luck with them

[jimmy white]

really dont see a lot wrong with the bird , good birds can come in all shapes and sizes , but if you were adament you wanted it changed , maybe a nice phone call explaining you were out the country and asking for a   " possible chance of a gesture of good will," might do the trick  

[thunderboult]

hi wings,  i think that bird looks ok and going by my experiences with louella busschaerts if you cross that bird with another strain(something jansen based) i think you'll be pleasantly surprised at the quality of racer you'd get