carl Posted September 27, 2007 Report Posted September 27, 2007 This Site is now loosely divided between meaningless posts and even more meaningless posts. Pigeon topics? What are they? :-/ I agree with you 100% this site is getting worse by the day.was once one of the best but going down hill fast
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted September 27, 2007 Report Posted September 27, 2007 is there no thread's about pigeons on this site everybody just seems to be selling pigeons anybody agree YES , AGREE WITH YOU BART
DOVEScot Posted September 27, 2007 Report Posted September 27, 2007 Just run it fair and properly then you have no room for real criticism, Have a sin bin if someone is not towing the line then block them for a time till they learn, BUT MAKE IT FAIR AND CONSISTANT NOT AN INDIVIDUAL DECISION But bear in mind you have proper forums to post on Things for sale/wanted so why criticise when some one posts Chit chat, define chit chat ?????? that will be a good one Racing forum, why does this make up the main board and never gets moved, it is called "PIGEON BASICS" not "RACING PIGEON BASICS" What about the keepers and fanciers that never race Banter you will never stop, the problem is that one persons banter is another persons poison, especially when they have to eat it themselves, they are not long in calling in the referees Why can't you question God and his deciples are they not made in the image of men, capable of mistakes and indiscretions like us mere mortals?
Guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Posted September 27, 2007 DoveScot, to be honest you are part of the problem, a small group that continually spoils it for others, and one of the first to bleat 'no fair' when you are pulled up. How many times do you need pulled up? 1, 100, 200, 1000 forever??? My guess is forever. My advice is if you don't like the conventions to which the vast majority abide, take your group and your act elsewhere.
DOVEScot Posted September 27, 2007 Report Posted September 27, 2007 DoveScot, to be honest you are part of the problem, a small group that continually spoils it for others, and one of the first to bleat 'no fair' when you are pulled up. How many times do you need pulled up? 1, 100, 200, 1000 forever??? My guess is forever. My advice is if you don't like the conventions to which the vast majority abide, take your group and your act elsewhere. Best form of defence is attack Bruno I have never been pulled up yet, problems with you in the past were cleared up and I apologised openly on the site as you did to me when you made a mistake about me If I make a mistake, as we all do I am man enough to admit it and to post it on the site and not in a PM I admit like I enjoy the banter and have even seen you join in at times too Can you name the band of mine that you would like to join me and act elsewhere please Never sold a bird on the site by the way, so not part or SELLINGBASICS.COM
bewted Posted September 27, 2007 Report Posted September 27, 2007 Wrong. The thread asked 'is there no topics on here about pigeons'. Strange that only Selling has been picked on after one or two have had a beef about it and opened up other sham threads of their own which were removed. It is not just 'selling' that is spoiling the Site it is all the other non-pigeon related kerrap that myself and the other moderators have to clean up daily, and get criticised when we do, and criticised again when we don't.. i agree with you on that bruno %
bewted Posted September 27, 2007 Report Posted September 27, 2007 I agree with you carl this was once one of the best sites going and for the majority of members we would like to see it return to what it was and what it is meant to be plenty of information and help on pigeon subjects unfortunately we seem to be losing members through the lack of this now and the meaningless posts that are totally irrelevant to anything to do with pigeons I dont think there is anything wrong with anyone having a laugh and a joke on the site its nice to see everyone getting on but there is a place for that in chit chat so there is no excuse for any of the members to spoil sensible pigeon posts elsewhere its not doing this site any favours by what is being done and losing members through it Im sure the majority of the members here would like to see this become the best site and not the site that you stop bothering to visit which is unfortunately being thought by some members because of the meaningless posts put on by a small minority of members you hit the nail on the head rose,WAS and i mean WAS a good site until lately,it is slowly spiraling downhill and getting worse on here,other sites must think this site is a big laugh lately,i hope all on here think before banters,hijacking threads and arguements arise on here,nobody is doing themselves any favours or the pigeonbasics site....
Guest slugmonkey Posted September 27, 2007 Report Posted September 27, 2007 Still a good site !!!! I have posted till I am blue in the face about buying pigeons and its to no avail if you are looking to buy a GREAT bird cheap your program is in trouble good birds are only bought through research and exploration I used to try to market my birds and couldnt give them away so I quit trying now I dont offer them for sale unless someone contacts me because they have seen where I had a good futurity or some one has told them that they have had luck with my birds the problem is that if a guy is shouting from every rooftop how great his birds are and he just keeps hammering on about it someone somewhere will eventually buy them !!! I am just amazed at how many birds are on the internet for sale anymore, AND people just keep on buying them sight unseen We have owned several WHZ national ace birds as well as a bird that was 1st nominated to the Olympiad ( Super Sajkie ) just about every bird I fly has a national ace or 2 in the pedigrees, I CONSISTENTLY win races giving 20+miles of overfly against a few WORLD renown flyers ( Bill Bonwell, Bybee and Sons, Larry Hedge ) long story short I gave a new flyer in my club a pair of birds and he is AMAZED that these birds children have been his 1st birds home every week when he went out and bought several internet birds that were from really well known lofts ..... KNOW WHAT YOU ARE BUYING .... P.S. pigeon keeping 101- ALWAYS quarintine new stock !!!!!
Guest slugmonkey Posted September 27, 2007 Report Posted September 27, 2007 I was looking at pedigrees a minute ago I have a bird that is a great grandson of Klinen Dirk and Terminator he is inbred slightly to Klinen Dirk side 1/2 brother to this bird is qualified to be Elite Registered A.U. Champion a full sister took 8th in Florida in Tampa Combine against 3000 birds, the mother of this bird is FULL sister to a National Ace and I cant get 300.00 dollars for it P.S. I wouldnt let it go for 300.00
majorpet Posted September 27, 2007 Report Posted September 27, 2007 is there no thread's about pigeons on this site everybody just seems to be selling pigeons 1 i would not buy off of anyone who never used there real name for a start 2 what club and fed do you fly in? 3 what price are the pigeon's (not make me an offer) 4what results have you had (birdage,distance) 5 any other fancier back your claims 6 how much will you give to this website when you make a sale thats some of the questions i would have if i was buying anybody agree YES MATE . MAJORPET
DOVEScot Posted September 27, 2007 Report Posted September 27, 2007 YES MATE . MAJORPET That's ok if you are experienced or in hind site, but not if you are new to the game, these con men get away with it for loads of reasons, but why have a forum for selling pigeons then grumble if someone uses it The webmaster can but down rules for sale of items and if you don't abide by them then you can't grumble on the site, but as yet don't know of any rules that exsist Trouble with an open forum you will always get abuse
jimmy white Posted September 27, 2007 Report Posted September 27, 2007 all info is on this site,, if members read " b4 selling read this" by webmaster,,,,,very very simple ,, not adhered to, by some members ,,,,,,so please read this
frank-123 Posted September 27, 2007 Author Report Posted September 27, 2007 true dovescot seller's you dont need the webmaster to lay down the rules if you want your birds to sell let the buyers see you name and results if i wanted to sell a bird i might try this im sure you would have a better response as for the site going downhill its up to us to ask intresting questions that might help a fellow fancier pigeonbasics is still no 1
Tony C Posted September 27, 2007 Report Posted September 27, 2007 all info is on this site,, if members read " b4 selling read this" by webmaster,,,,,very very simple ,, not adhered to, by some members ,,,,,,so please read this Guidelines to be followed These guidelines have been put together to help the sale of your birds, as well as upholding the integrity of the website and adverts placed here. If your post does not conform to these guidelines we reserve the right to delete it from the website without prior notice. Information to Include* The sellers full name; i.e. name races are flown under A pedigree or breeding details of the bird(s) Breeding/Racing/Showing performances A photograph [* not all points are compulsory, however a good attempt at satisfying a number of the points above is required, after all it is in your interest to fill as much information as possible] Other Rules These pages are for Private sellers only; unless prior permission has been sought from the Webmaster. Links to items listed on other auction or sales websites will not be tolerated. If you have made a successful sale using Pigeonbasics.com, please consider donating a voluntary contribution to website funds using the button below. Payments can be via credit/debit card or Paypal account. All payments are processed by Paypal and are entirely secure as their systems. [The sellers full name; i.e. name races are flown under A pedigree or breeding details of the bird(s) Breeding/Racing/Showing performances A photograph * not all points are compulsory, however a good attempt at satisfying a number of the points above is required, after all it is in your interest to fill as much information as possible]
frank-123 Posted September 27, 2007 Author Report Posted September 27, 2007 can we have this thread moved to the for sale so the sellers may take notice
jimmy white Posted September 27, 2007 Report Posted September 27, 2007 you hit the nail on the head rose,WAS and i mean WAS a good site until lately,it is slowly spiraling downhill and getting worse on here,other sites must think this site is a big laugh lately,i hope all on here think before banters,hijacking threads and arguements arise on here,nobody is doing themselves any favours or the pigeonbasics site.... i entirely agree with you bewted ,, but it must be remembered that it is just a few that are spoiling it,, maybe most of the decent members should speak out a bit more , i know its difficult as the decent members really bypass these stupid posts [im quite sure the members that are the cause of this know this ] but most of the members agree with you , including me,,and according to my pm,s theres a post for eveything, and everything in its post lets try our best to make it the best as it allways has been
ALF Posted September 27, 2007 Report Posted September 27, 2007 WHY NOT MAKE EVERYONE WHO WANTS TO SELL DOOS ON THE SITE MAKE A DONATION BEFORE THEY CAN SELL ANYTHING ON THE SITE 8) 8) 8)
jimmy white Posted September 27, 2007 Report Posted September 27, 2007 Guidelines to be followed These guidelines have been put together to help the sale of your birds, as well as upholding the integrity of the website and adverts placed here. If your post does not conform to these guidelines we reserve the right to delete it from the website without prior notice. Information to Include* The sellers full name; i.e. name races are flown under A pedigree or breeding details of the bird(s) Breeding/Racing/Showing performances A photograph [* not all points are compulsory, however a good attempt at satisfying a number of the points above is required, after all it is in your interest to fill as much information as possible] Other Rules These pages are for Private sellers only; unless prior permission has been sought from the Webmaster. Links to items listed on other auction or sales websites will not be tolerated. If you have made a successful sale using Pigeonbasics.com, please consider donating a voluntary contribution to website funds using the button below. Payments can be via credit/debit card or Paypal account. All payments are processed by Paypal and are entirely secure as their systems. [The sellers full name; i.e. name races are flown under A pedigree or breeding details of the bird(s) Breeding/Racing/Showing performances A photograph * not all points are compulsory, however a good attempt at satisfying a number of the points above is required, after all it is in your interest to fill as much information as possible] Bart,, this is already on the for sale site ,,its been there all along , so when some of these posts are removed , is because members are not adhering to the the webmasters posting
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted September 27, 2007 Report Posted September 27, 2007 WHY NOT MAKE EVERYONE WHO WANTS TO SELL DOOS ON THE SITE MAKE A DONATION BEFORE THEY CAN SELL ANYTHING ON THE SITE 8) 8) 8) WELL THATS WHAT OTHER SITES DO ALF IS IT NOT ?
Guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Posted September 27, 2007 WHY NOT MAKE EVERYONE WHO WANTS TO SELL DOOS ON THE SITE MAKE A DONATION BEFORE THEY CAN SELL ANYTHING ON THE SITE 8) 8) 8) good idea alf m8... or could be a percentage of wot they sell the bird/s for?..if that can be worked out somehow.
jimmy white Posted September 27, 2007 Report Posted September 27, 2007 every one on the site should make small [some a large ;D] donation ,, the service on pb is second to none, we all get it free and should be very gratefull ,
DOVEScot Posted September 27, 2007 Report Posted September 27, 2007 Guidelines to be followed These guidelines have been put together to help the sale of your birds, as well as upholding the integrity of the website and adverts placed here. If your post does not conform to these guidelines we reserve the right to delete it from the website without prior notice. Information to Include* The sellers full name; i.e. name races are flown under A pedigree or breeding details of the bird(s) Breeding/Racing/Showing performances A photograph [* not all points are compulsory, however a good attempt at satisfying a number of the points above is required, after all it is in your interest to fill as much information as possible] Other Rules These pages are for Private sellers only; unless prior permission has been sought from the Webmaster. Links to items listed on other auction or sales websites will not be tolerated. If you have made a successful sale using Pigeonbasics.com, please consider donating a voluntary contribution to website funds using the button below. Payments can be via credit/debit card or Paypal account. All payments are processed by Paypal and are entirely secure as their systems. [The sellers full name; i.e. name races are flown under A pedigree or breeding details of the bird(s) Breeding/Racing/Showing performances A photograph * not all points are compulsory, however a good attempt at satisfying a number of the points above is required, after all it is in your interest to fill as much information as possible] Again novices and inexperienced would not know how to use all that information. I came on the site as a newbe and seen "veteran of the loft" automatically thought they were just what it implies, a well experienced veteran that knows about lofts/birds ect. soon realised you could become one by constantly posting crap and getting your post counts up so you become one I have learned by my mistakes and bad judgements all my life, but at least I have learned a thing or two, and still making them as you will soon find out. You can't expect everyone to learn the ropes until you have been in every corner of the ring, believe me you soon learn when your stuck in one getting lumps punched out you 8) 8) 8)
DOVEScot Posted September 27, 2007 Report Posted September 27, 2007 Perhaps we should get something like a box that you have to tick to say that you have read and accepted the conditions for selling pigeons before you can post Great idea
Tony C Posted September 27, 2007 Report Posted September 27, 2007 Maybe the selling of pigeons should be posted via a mod or the webmaster after approval. If the guidelines haven't been met its trashed.
DOVEScot Posted September 27, 2007 Report Posted September 27, 2007 I agree dovescot that is a bit misleading if you look at it that way you become that just by the number of posts you put on if your starting out its not easy knowing whos who and whats what but with most of the top names if you put it in to your search engine you will find write ups etc on their birds and what they have done or if you go onto lot of the clubs sites and look at the results you should be able to find their names in the results and what they have done there Again if you know the ropes its easy, I feel sorry for the ones knocked out as soon as they come into the ring See a bird for sale, nice picture, don't have a clue about sellers, pedigrees, race results ect, just keen to get started, realise you should have read the small print or done your homework, we have all done it When I was a boy we had about 5-10 lofts in each street of a mining community, now some places you are lucky to get 5-10 lofts in the town, and young people are using the internet to access information, punch in "pigeon" and you get the site no problem Pigeon men do not need the site to sell pigeons because it collective sport and ones results are known amoungst the community of pigeon men
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