Guest cloudview Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 when bringing new stock , what criteria do you look for , ie long casted ,etc ect regardless of pedigree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ribble Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 Results, Results & Results. Let the basket decide! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael J Burden Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 I look at the fancier who is selling. Is he racing in the very best company and doing ok. For me the company has to be the NFC. If they are doing ok there then they will win in competition which has closer lofts ie feds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 Yes would have to be results in national races from 500 miles and up for a number of years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrant2coo Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 Yes would have to be results in national races from 500 miles and up for a number of years. vincent having met you i,m sure by your keeness to do well you will stick to the task of selecting the right birds for your familyto build on in your area and others there are certain people to go too where you canpick the right ones butas the last post states it does not happen over night you have to build it takes 2 or 3 years mate to get the them together and sometimes that goes wrong , i know you will stick with it and reap the rewards all the best for 2008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cloudview Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 good answers but not the ones im looking for , maybe i did,nt make it precise enough . what i want to know is , for example no 1 you have already decided who you are buying off , you at his loft looking to buy two pairs out of a possible twenty pairs . on pedigree and performance they are eqeal . now what are your selections or should say your likes and dislikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANCYVIEWLOFTS Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 if possible i would look for fanciers who are scoring well with only a small setup in top competition that are in or near to your own AREA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammy Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 good answers but not the ones im looking for , maybe i did,nt make it precise enough . what i want to know is , for example no 1 you have already decided who you are buying off , you at his loft looking to buy two pairs out of a possible twenty pairs . on pedigree and performance they are eqeal . now what are your selections or should say your likes and dislikes personally i would select the birds that look and handle the same as the winning pigeons in his loft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy white Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 out of 20 pairs i would find it difficult to beleive all pedigrees and performances are the same ,, but if i was looking for good distance birds , i would look for the ones that scored in the lowest velocity races Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest slugmonkey Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 Look at where the bird is nesting, then handle him does he fight me or is he very complacent. open the wing, how is feather quality, are the flights long and knife like or rounded. is there a step in the wing, release the wing does it snap back or does he just leisurly pull it back, pull on beak does he throw his head around and try to pull back or does he wait till I release him, throw backend down does his tail drop or does it stay straight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 Look for a calm temperament as well as an intelligent head.All good distance birds have good balance with plenty of feather covering underneath.Some like a longish tail and wings, which help keep them up in the air for long periods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANCYVIEWLOFTS Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 good point delboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cloudview Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 yes , thanks now were on the same wave length , how are you george Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whats it called Cumbernauld Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 Asking the sellers opinion would be something that springs to mind. Other than this Delboy is not far of the mark when he talks of temperament and balance are also key to making a choice.not sure however about length of tail or wings however they should be in proportion to the birds body. More important than all this, make sure your in the right loft to get these stock pigeons that will be your foundation for years to come.Think hard and think long, and check results over two or three years at least. Interesting thread Cheers Rab Smith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vic Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 Yes, If I was starting again, the intelligent looking head would play a main part. Some guys don't know what I mean, but a loft full "sweetness", would reign supreme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANCYVIEWLOFTS Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 fine stu if you have allready decided who you are buying off i would put my faith in that person as you must have trusted him before deciding to buy off him as you know stu good birds come in all shapes and sizes a typical example is your tarbes cock and your pau hen you know the one i picked out and suggested where it should go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cloudview Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 i seemed to remember you telling me and i quote stu whats that fu ting , you dont want bird s like that in yer loft , am i right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrant2coo Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 its not all down to the long distance pigeon you know , manageing these birds also plays a big part to play you can go and select what ever you want and still do nothing with them , your skills come into it in a big big way, so you pick out the ones you want from the fanciers you want , and hey presto , i,m afraid its just not like that you have to work at it really hard to get the returns you can expect and most of the time its down to grass roots again building a family of birds and putting them to-gether to win is a daunting task and years of experience is to be gained in doing so pigeons come in all shapes and sizes i could take you to a loft and you will say how the hell does he win with them , this man could be the master of the long distance pigeon , its how he manages them that matters . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 look for birds similar to your Tarbes cock and your Pau hen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cloudview Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 cheers , for your answers , im not looking myself , but was interested on other views , personally i like them small to medium shallow keeled , good rump cover, noble headed ,although not that impotant plus a big fad of mine , no gaps in flights, except last four also not to leggy with necks like an ostrich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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