Tenny Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 Cant help agreeing that a national should be open to the Nation hence the Phrase "NATIONal" I understand that costs are going to be kept to a minimum but if it was open to the whole of wales it could be more recognised as a national Nothing wrong with having marking stations situated in the East and invite anyone from WALES TO ENTER. if they want to enter they would need to get birds down here to the regional marking stations set up by the comittee? JUST AN IDEA? !
pjc Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 Last season when they threw there toys out of there pram and were insisting all the feds in the combine had to use there transporter, the other feds in the combine were calling a meeting to pull out of the combine and leave them to it, True! Now they have there way and good luck/ridence to them the combine will be a happier place without them even with reduced birdage.
pjc Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 how can it be affiliated already? Meeting was only held to form it yesterday, has it been publisised yet asking for objections or as suspected and said many times on this thread was it all cut and dried brfore the meeting? the new national is affiliated to the whpu....committee on the national are from different area,s not just the wnrf.
Tenny Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 Cant help agreeing that a national should be open to the Nation hence the Phrase "NATIONal" I understand that costs are going to be kept to a minimum but if it was open to the whole of wales it could be more recognised as a national Nothing wrong with having marking stations situated in the East and invite anyone from WALES TO ENTER. if they want to enter they would need to get birds down here to the regional marking stations set up by the comittee? JUST AN IDEA? !
Guest strapper Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 Last season when they threw there toys out of there pram and were insisting all the feds in the combine had to use there transporter, the other feds in the combine were calling a meeting to pull out of the combine and leave them to it, True! Now they have there way and good luck/ridence to them the combine will be a happier place without them even with reduced birdage. well to be honest wnrf members was against using another trailer because they had paid for the geraldy and didnt think it was fair ,if it had been arranged to use each feds trailers on diff occasions equally then im sure there would be less complaining surely this is only right.
Tenny Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 Cant help agreeing that a national should be open to the Nation hence the Phrase "NATIONal" I understand that costs are going to be kept to a minimum but if it was open to the whole of wales it could be more recognised as a national Nothing wrong with having marking stations situated in the East and invite anyone from WALES TO ENTER. if they want to enter they would need to get birds down here to the regional marking stations set up by the comittee? JUST AN IDEA? !
Roland Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 Doubt very much indeed if every a case for the court over slander would even reach the courts, let alone be tried. And just look at the time effect that it would take to prove before it even got as far as being seriously considered. And wouldn't the members be in an uproar is any 'Body' forked out the £0000's that would have to be lodged before a lawyer, let alone a court would be interested. But agree too many of us are possibly only spouting out past realities when in all honest this may be different. Mind they all started out like that! So you will have another Fed labelled a 'National'! Struth who would 'Adam and Eve it'? No one I guess.
Guest strapper Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 how can it be affiliated already? Meeting was only held to form it yesterday, has it been publisised yet asking for objections or as suspected and said many times on this thread was it all cut and dried brfore the meeting? i misworded it...it will most prob be to the whpu.....i should have said....as is most welsh nationals..but a few.
pjc Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 Paul, all other feds have always distributed baskets etc for combine/ national races but not the WNRF, they were insisting the birds were transfered to there crates at there location. Would you want your birds mauled around transfered etc etc, they were just being selfish spoilt brats and they didn't buy the transporter, the lotto grant did!
Guest tom123 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 Paul, all other feds have always distributed baskets etc for combine/ national races but not the WNRF, they were insisting the birds were transfered to there crates at there location. Would you want your birds mauled around transfered etc etc, they were just being selfish spoilt brats and they didn't buy the transporter, the lotto grant did! if what you say is what you belive is right was it ok for the wnr fed birds to be has you put it mauled on the lilliers yb race at 1am in the morning trans shipping into the rv fed baskets
Guest cowboy Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 if transporter was payed 4 with lotto grant dont the lotto say it is open to all
Guest strapper Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 Paul, all other feds have always distributed baskets etc for combine/ national races but not the WNRF, they were insisting the birds were transfered to there crates at there location. Would you want your birds mauled around transfered etc etc, they were just being selfish spoilt brats and they didn't buy the transporter, the lotto grant did! well phil we dont know whats behind half of what goes on in these feds to be truthfull we all here this and that. down the national yesterday i was there and was impressed at what was said. i think there maybe a few leaving the south east national (hearsay)to join this new one if it takes off, i 100% agree that it should be open to all wales to be called a national , but remember when the welsh north road and new north road split they could never agree....on the north....nothing will change m8, its just left for us pawns to follow and pay what ever they do.
pjc Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 yes it should be open to all to use, but they (wnrf) won't allow that! Tom, no birds should have to be transfered unless there is a very good reason, i.e transporter breaks down etc, there has been in most cases a provision to get enough baskets distributed to all feds concerned by the convoying feds but not when the wnrf are concerned! if transporter was payed 4 with lotto grant dont the lotto say it is open to all
Guest tom123 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 pjc they even offered to take baskets to heol y chiw when they had central marking i believe on giessen but were still over ruled so what more could they have realisticlly done
Guest cowboy Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 its just left for us pawns to follow and pay what ever they do. you are wrong stand and be counted and fly for the sport like in days gone by when my dad did
pjc Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 But what was the point of running such a large transporter to Geisson with a couple of hundred birds just because they want to use what they consider to be "there transporter"?
Guest tom123 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 it wasnt the artic they were taking it was supposed to have been the ridged smaller transporter but then again its water under the bridge now
Guest cowboy Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 if transporter was payed 4 with lotto grant as said it is not there transporter it is very ones
Guest tom123 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 i suppose its like the one the west wales fed just bought from geraldy theres were presented to them because they applied for it
Guest cowboy Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 you might be right but we can all join west wales we all cant join new welsh national
Guest tom123 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 you might be right but we can all join west wales we all cant join new welsh national well that remains to be seen in the future early days aint it
ChrisMaidment08 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 Seems to me that certain people are stirring up discussions without actually being interested joining the New Welsh National - meeting held at the Seamans Mission Sun 11th Jan. Why fetch up the issue of fanciers outside of Wales if you are not trying to cause friction? Making assumptions that people attended without actually being there!!!!!! Fanciers have informed me that the member making these comments doesn't belong to the Welsh Federation - but seems to think he knows a lot. ;D ;D ;D ;Dgod love you did you go buy com just to put this dig in at me trouble with the likes of you is noone must have an opion on anything bet you are on commitee thanks for pm clearly meant to stir trouble funny how after reading this others are agreeing its toys out window so lets form nat and the oddest bit is later when it gets better it can be open to all wales allwales aye as long as its local tto gwent cant have wrexam winning or further west ha ha ha
thunderboult Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 surely chris if their so much better as some seem to think it won't matter were they race from?
pencil cock Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 so whos the comittee of this new national anyone know ?
ChrisMaidment08 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 no mate it wont but as any senseable person knows why this was set up they will not be open to all in wales cos if it was going to be it would be now not later im going to start nat with prizemoney of 1000a race cos i was told by another nat to be good boy which im not prepared to do but you can be in my nat as long as you live caldicot rogait underwood or chepstow i may open it to the rest when it gets stronger with more members ;D ;D ;D ;D ;Day did you see that pig its flying nat is nat open to all pjc is correct it is because toys out window and in wales it seems if you have diffrent ideas then we will go our way and split everything up leaveing fanciers to be out in cold wales is big place not just 100 miles round ;) glad to see so many new members come on to discuss this i must give peaple head ace if they have to tell each other chris is making comments again love it pity we could not get every fancier in big room and have a proper meeting from all of wales thats 1000.s then you would see diffrent side to this
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