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iv been offerd some vanloons, what distence do they exsel at and is any one flying them and are they any good

 

i'd say they're upto middle distance, but i have seen em crossed into long distance families. many people have them, the good ones are good and the bad ones are bad,same as any other.

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iv been offerd some vanloons, what distence do they exsel at and is any one flying them and are they any good

ONE OF THE BEST JANSSEN BASED BIRDS AROUND AND STILL ARE HUDSON AND LOWE HAD SOME GREATS I OWED ONE FROM THERE FAMILY.AND STILL HAVE A VAN LOON  BASED FAMILY.

 

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best van loons in there day were the Planet Van Loons, destroyed all sprint competition

 

this was a planet bros van loon  :),, a son of a pigeon i bought called" dilligent " this bird itself had won very well, but also bred some very good pigeons [that particular son of dillegent won me about £3000,, and it was a late bred :) ]

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Van Loons will do up to about 420 miles and are a good honest pigeon ;) so i'd say sprint to middle distance  :) John Williamson of Bolton and Williamson ( of Bridlington ) told me they could do 500 miles but not in a head wind  :)

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You know, one season Jansenn - the dad - sent his birds to the furest races and excelled, winning big time. But didn't like the waiting around etc. So his older family birds at least scored well.... And seem to think thatthere was always a 'Core' of these birds in his loft.

Have for years believed that Middle distance - Distance birds a myth. More system I believe. Golly just look at the Buesarts excelling at the distance, AND this was once thought an impossibility as they were only (Supposedly) good to 400 or just over.

they have again and again proved themselves... Many did the 1000 miler from Rome for instance. etc. etc. So Van Loons will respond to the task asked, if your managerment, and more importantly the birds - like all pigeons - adopt and like your SYSTEM!

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ONE OF THE BEST JANSSEN BASED BIRDS AROUND AND STILL ARE HUDSON AND LOWE HAD SOME GREATS I OWED ONE FROM THERE FAMILY.AND STILL HAVE A VAN LOON  BASED FAMILY.

 

Terry and Roger got rid of all there Van Loons in the mid 90's, i had some latebreds of there top racers before a lot went to Japan.

 

 

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I think the van loons are great breed, if crossed into right family 500 miles no problem.  My best bird flew 500 twice on day(one14 hours 20mins) he was from Van loon cock(diect out of Frank Aarts Vice president) x Stichbault.

 

Also the late great Derrick Fenwick of Shotton North Wales excelled at 600 miles with the van loon, I bought a grandson of his original van loon at his berevement sale.  Think this was Planet brothers.

 

So if not too old I would try them.

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Like all pigeons good and bad. Great pigeons for crossing if you get the right ones

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Like all pigeons good and bad. Great pigeons for crossing if you get the right ones

 

if you get the right pigeons of any strain there great for crossing  ;)

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Planet's Van Loons are still winning big time throughout the UK, and there are still many good sources, Mick McMurchie, John Windsor, Paul Newbold has a lot of stock via the now defunct Ranmoor Lofts & as Old Yellow pointed out, there is Bolton & Williamson to name just 4.

 

Oh and then there's Planet Brothers if you only need hens!  ;)

 

The original base of the Koopman family is in the main Janssen & Van Loon, making them the perfect foil to pep up an inbred Planet line should you feel the need.

 

Gerard Koopman regards Louis Van Loon as his 2nd Father which may give some idea as to how much time he spent at the lofts of Van Loon during his pigeon education and how important a role Van Loon's pigeons played in the make up of one of the finest family of middle distanse pigeons around today, IMO.  :)  

 

They are intelligent, honest as the day is long, easy to condition as they are a small-medium type and will score throughout the programme.  :)

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