cemetary Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 What does the members think on various crosses in pigeons, what is the best x you have won with.
sapper756 Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 What does the members think on various crosses in pigeons, what is the best x you have won with. FINGERS ;D ;D ;D
cemetary Posted February 11, 2009 Author Report Posted February 11, 2009 Pigeons Brian, read the thread mate, dafty. ;D
sapper756 Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 Pigeons Brian, read the thread mate, dafty. ;D Why have ye no heard of Van Fingers? I,ve 10 of them ;D ;D ;D ;D and I cross them every Saturday ;D ;D ;D
cemetary Posted February 11, 2009 Author Report Posted February 11, 2009 You need to start and spend more, you cant take it with you remember. ;D ;D ;D
Guest Owen Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 I don't believe in pure breeds. My system is winners to winners. And to get the maximum information to use in my breeding programme, I use the Bull system. One cock to up to 9 hens. It is the best way to work out which pairings suit each other. This garantees that all my Ybs have at least one winning parent. In some cases both parents are winners because the hens will have won as Ybs. I fly Cocks only on widowhood, I always end up with a surplus of hens. This means that I can pick the hens I want to breed with and I dump the others. I have been doing this for three years now and the standard of my birds is getting better and better. They are more consistant and I loose less than I did before. An unexpected benefit has been that my YB hens are far better than before and they can race right through the programme easily. It is worth noting, that I have two really good racing hens that have not produced anything any good. They have both been tried with three top quality cocks.
jimmy white Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 I don't believe in pure breeds. My system is winners to winners. And to get the maximum information to use in my breeding programme, I use the Bull system. One cock to up to 9 hens. It is the best way to work out which pairings suit each other. This garantees that all my Ybs have at least one winning parent. In some cases both parents are winners because the hens will have won as Ybs. I fly Cocks only on widowhood, I always end up with a surplus of hens. This means that I can pick the hens I want to breed with and I dump the others. I have been doing this for three years now and the standard of my birds is getting better and better. They are more consistant and I loose less than I did before. An unexpected benefit has been that my YB hens are far better than before and they can race right through the programme easily. It is worth noting, that I have two really good racing hens that have not produced anything any good. They have both been tried with three top quality cocks. my sentiments exactly,, no pure breeds [as theres no such thing ] simply winner to winner , then do as sapper says ;D
Guest shadow Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 winner to winner regardless of breed
Wiley Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 every strain is a cross, no strain is pure so hence there cant be a best cross, as most modern raci9ng pigeons unless they have been inbred have the hybrid vigour
DUBLINFLYER Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 FINGERS ;D ;D ;D cracker ;D > ;D > ;D
Pego Posted February 12, 2009 Report Posted February 12, 2009 First cross with two inbred families can give you good results racing.
john@formula 1 lofts Posted February 13, 2009 Report Posted February 13, 2009 I have found the Ron Williamson birds make a great cross into the Gabys.
joe61 Posted February 13, 2009 Report Posted February 13, 2009 spot on there pego first cross with two inbred or line bred familys they should explode there is only so meny winning lines in a strain of birds 2 or 3 perhaps these are the ones you look for not any old bird just because it carrys the same strain name sapper i got 8 fingers and 2 thumbs mate oh happy days
Guest youngzimmy Posted February 13, 2009 Report Posted February 13, 2009 WHICH GOES TO SHOW OWEN THAT WINNERS DONT ALWAYS BREED WINNERS I WONDER HOW MANY DOO MEN HAVE SPENT FORTUNES BUYING EXPENSIVE WINNERS ONLY TO BE DISSAPOINTED WITH THE PRODUCE
Guest youngzimmy Posted February 13, 2009 Report Posted February 13, 2009 MIND TOU WHEN YOU DO GET A COUPLE OF GOOD ONES THAT PRODUCE THE GOODS ITS LIKE FINDING A COUPLE OF GOLD NUGGETS I GUESS
Guest Owen Posted February 13, 2009 Report Posted February 13, 2009 Youngzimmy, you are right of course. But I will stick to my winners to winners idea because it is the best evidence to hand. When I say winners, I mean my own winners. I think that there are far too many birds being sold that turn out to be disappointing to their new owners. In the past I bought birds out of this that and the other. With the exception of two they all ended up in the bin. The two got me started and now their sons and daughters are doing well for me. I often hear fanciers talking about the losses they have each and every year. Some of them loose a heck of a lot of pigeons. I loose pigeons myself, but not many and I always have enough left to select from each year these days. So although I agree that non winners can breed winners, I am not prepared to spend the time and money experimenting.
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