jimmy white Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 notice pinned on pet shop window,,,,now in my possesion , with a little explaining to the petshop owner [who was understandably concerned , never having thought of my veiws , but does now,, and agrees,,,,,,, a survey has recently been carried out by the rspb, to find out what has happened to the house sparrow, where they are located and the numbers present. information has been emerging. and east london comes high up in the table, with 282 sparrows spotted. this a far cry from the large flocks, that once flew over this area. the largest flock spotted was about 100, the average being 14...just over a decade ago, it was not unusual to see colonies of 1,000. allthoghthe survey dealt with sparrows, ther are many species of british wild birds that are under threat, including the bull finch, song thrush, linnet and sky lark. dramatic changes in the countrieside and urban areas have seen birds like turtle doves, sparrow and linnet reduced by an alarming rate,,,,millions of country birds are threatened by food shortages, and the loss of their habitat, others have just dissapeared from our towns and cities..... if you want to know more about joining the rspb phone,,,,,,, or visit link below,,,,, r,s,b.p. picture of a HOUSE sparrow [theve lost their habitat??] and at the bottom a bull finch, my goodness me , do they honestly expect people to beleive this tosh,, with the sparrow hawks at their highest level yet,,
jimmy white Posted February 17, 2009 Author Report Posted February 17, 2009 dont know if you can make this out
pjc Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 you should just put a notice next to it pointing out the truth about the RSPB and how they have caused an inbalance in nature causeing the demise of small birds!
Novice Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 The simple fact is that people will believe this because they don't know any better
fred x Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 dont know if you can make this out Jimmy the phone number is a Brighton one, On the South Coast. & a lot of pigeon fliers are giving up or moving away from the Cliffs on the coast, because of the problems with hawk attacks. Are the people that run the RSPB that Bl***dy stupid >
jimmy white Posted February 17, 2009 Author Report Posted February 17, 2009 Jimmy the phone number is a Brighton one, On the South Coast. & a lot of pigeon fliers are giving up or moving away from the Cliffs on the coast, because of the problems with hawk attacks. Are the people that run the RSPB that Bl***dy stupid > i know that the rspb,,are anything but stupid,, but how on earth can they state these facts to the public , when it is so obvious,,,,it is just not true,,,,,,,no habitat for house sparows,,[no houses??],,unbeleivable ,, surely there must be a way to combat these blatant lies
jimmy white Posted February 17, 2009 Author Report Posted February 17, 2009 you should just put a notice next to it pointing out the truth about the RSPB and how they have caused an inbalance in nature causeing the demise of small birds! after talking to the lady and gent , they did come round to my way of thinking,,, if anyone can print a polite notice aimed at the public, and, explaining the true facts , i would most certainly have this put in the window,,,,,,maybe this "fact"sheet from the rspb , could be counter acted ,by song bird lovers , countryside lovers , pigeon fanciers etc,, to form an honest fact sheet , which could be sent to many "places" [along with this rspb one] thousands ,in fact??? maybe worth a thought :-/
OLDYELLOW Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 urinating in the wind Jimmy until the R.S.P.B acknowledges they are failing our song birds and are the biggest cause of there demise there will be more hawks than anything we are breeding more to feed them every year lets hope with most populations surges these birds of prey get a new deadly disease that reduces there numbers , they blame farmers poisoning ectra but never the very thing thats eats most of them
DJH Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 The RSPB have been very blinkered for a long time. They are not interested in new members, they only want further funding! They blame the reduction on all wild birds as being soley down to modern farming and are not interested any other opionion, especially if it is pointing the fingure at their beloved Hawk population. The RSPB need to remember that all the public funding they receive throughout the year is for the protection of ALL birds, not just the chosen few.
jimmy white Posted February 17, 2009 Author Report Posted February 17, 2009 thing is,, they are actually printing a" mandate ", a signed legal document, that is obviously lies ,, surely something can be done,, if proven wrong by law,, ,, it seems that the mighty rspb are even above the law :-/[or think they are] this cannot be right a house sparrow with no habitat,,,,mad
PATTY BHOY Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 RSPB – 124,172 acres THE Royal Society for the Protection of Birds (RSPB) is one of the UK's richest charities and has used part of its wealth to become one of the most rapidly acquiring landowners in Scotland. When the top 20 list of Scottish landowners was put together in 2000, the RSPB was 15th with 87,000 acres. It now sits eighth with almost 50 per cent more land in its Scottish holdings to date and more purchases expected in the future. The organisation manages 75 nature reserves totalling 165,622 acres in Scotland, owning 124,172 acres. The rest of the land has management agreements in place. The RSPB has reintroduced species such as the white-tailed eagle and set up visitor attractions. Its largest site is the 43,754-acre Forsinard Flows nature reserve in Caithness and Sutherland, an important habitat for golden plover, dunlin and merlin. Other important reserves are Coll, home to corncrakes; Dunnet Head in Orkney, famed for puffins, guillemots, fulmars, razorbills and kittiwakes; and Loch Garten, home of the osprey. Its biggest concentration of land is in Orkney, where it owns and runs 13 reserves. The RSPB's massive holdings and thousands of members make it a powerful force in Scotland and across the UK.
jimmy white Posted February 17, 2009 Author Report Posted February 17, 2009 r,s,p.b- 124,172 acres,,,,,,, and not a mention of our wee cock sparra ,,, i think they just need two acres ;D
jacksafc Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 There was an article on the radio at the weekend about some people researching the night time activities of 200 domestic cats to try to explain the demise of wild birds, moles,voles etc because they cant understand why the numbers are depleted, they'll blame anything but the hawks
jimmy white Posted February 17, 2009 Author Report Posted February 17, 2009 ys, the hawks are never mentioned,, but they[the rspb] have admitted that their at their highest level now, since the d,d,t, scare,many years ago now,,, if their at their highest level now,, one wonders what the level will be like in a few years time, how they will survive, and what they will eat :-/
Guest Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 33,000+ members of the RPRA all signing a petition plus thousands of pro song bird people would be a significant petition to present to to Downing Street. My only reservation is do we have enough proof that hawks are the main cause of the decline in songbird numbers?
just ask me Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 There was an article on the radio at the weekend about some people researching the night time activities of 200 domestic cats to try to explain the demise of wild birds, moles,voles etc because they cant understand why the numbers are depleted, they'll blame anything but the hawks[/quote would agree with this too cats are a major killer of birds too im out on the land all the time have seen cats live in rabbit burrows with dozens of remains of birds outside the burrow ive seen this lots and how many home cats are left out at night bet these kill a lot too now im not disagreeing that hawks are a major cause too but i think cat owners have to look at them selves too also on another point we as pigeon fanicers have seen what bad peanuts can do too our birds i think the the wild bird seed we buy with these bad peanuts could be killing our wild birds too
DJH Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 RSPB – 124,172 acres THE Royal Society for the Protection of Birds (RSPB) is one of the UK's richest charities and has used part of its wealth to become one of the most rapidly acquiring landowners in Scotland. When the top 20 list of Scottish landowners was put together in 2000, the RSPB was 15th with 87,000 acres. It now sits eighth with almost 50 per cent more land in its Scottish holdings to date and more purchases expected in the future. The organisation manages 75 nature reserves totalling 165,622 acres in Scotland, owning 124,172 acres. The rest of the land has management agreements in place. The RSPB has reintroduced species such as the white-tailed eagle and set up visitor attractions. Its largest site is the 43,754-acre Forsinard Flows nature reserve in Caithness and Sutherland, an important habitat for golden plover, dunlin and merlin. Other important reserves are Coll, home to corncrakes; Dunnet Head in Orkney, famed for puffins, guillemots, fulmars, razorbills and kittiwakes; and Loch Garten, home of the osprey. Its biggest concentration of land is in Orkney, where it owns and runs 13 reserves. The RSPB's massive holdings and thousands of members make it a powerful force in Scotland and across the UK. You a quoting a lot of facts relating to the introduction of various species of birds. Tell the RSPB to errect a pigeon loft on the British mainland and lets see how quickly they get pissed off.
PATTY BHOY Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 i`m stating how much land they own.RSPB – 124,172 acres
jimmy white Posted February 17, 2009 Author Report Posted February 17, 2009 33,000+ members of the RPRA all signing a petition plus thousands of pro song bird people would be a significant petition to present to to Downing Street. My only reservation is do we have enough proof that hawks are the main cause of the decline in songbird numbers? it could well be possible [from various sources] to form a petition like this ,,,,but as you say "do we have enough proof, that hawks are the main cause of the decline in song bird numbers",,, this would be my reservations also,, but the problem goes back to the rspb,, im quite sure they would make sure there wasnt enough proof ,, but is it fair for the rspb to publish a document that bears no proof either, it seems they are assuming that it is lack of habitat,,, and as i said b4 ,,a house sparrow with lack of habitat ,, crazy :-/
Guest Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 I agree with what your saying but but something has to be done. The RSPB should be seen as the Royal Society for the Prevention of Birds, because they are hardly protecting them and somehow the general public must be made aware of this
just ask me Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 some great posts here with tought may it contuine same goes for other threads too
jimmy white Posted February 17, 2009 Author Report Posted February 17, 2009 I agree with what your saying but but something has to be done. The RSPB should be seen as the Royal Society for the Prevention of Birds, because they are hardly protecting them and somehow the general public must be made aware of this definately agree,, im quite sure if they put a loft up in one of their nature reserves , would maybe get a true reading then,,,and this is the bit,,,they are gulling the general public into their own veiws.... if by some means, the general public, could really find,or know the truth , things could just maybe that wee bitty different :-/
Guest Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 Wee tip, when you get their charity gift wallet.seal it put nothing in it and post.they still get charged the postage. ;D ;D
PATTY BHOY Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 have a read. http://www.rspb.org.uk/ourwork/policy/species/birdsofprey/pigeons.asp
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