joe61 Posted March 4, 2009 Author Report Posted March 4, 2009 thats all good in probable terms.. but you can work on probability we dont, good luck with your birds. oh h days
Guest Paulo Posted March 4, 2009 Report Posted March 4, 2009 What makes me wonder is people moan about people selling old birds that are no good (which i totally agree with) but who buys these birds is what i would like to know because i would not buy old birds unless it was a entire clearence sale and a genuine one at that or i new the person and reason the birds were for sale. As who in there right mind would sell a good old bird. we have the policy we do not sell old bird's that has been bred from and we do not buy old birds unless we know all about the birds and there is a very good reason why they are for sale. which is not often. Buy a kit of y/b's and find your own stock team from them over 2 or 3 years is a lot more likely way to the top in my eyes John Same here I only buy old birds from entire clearance sales now. The only exception is I sometimes buy a few hens off a top widowhood flyer I'm mates with every year. He looks after me though and the hens I buy are top quality and I've bred winners from them already in their first year of breeding in the stock loft. I only buy old birds with chalks as well
frank-123 Posted March 4, 2009 Report Posted March 4, 2009 nearly all our birds all 23 pairs have bred winners and fed winners at that, and we do not sell old birds unless asked for, we can tell a good pigeon , Paulo nunes of portugal asked for 2 yearlings for stock, we sent 2 to portugal, in their first year breeding they both bred winners with upto 5000 birds competeing, and help make him , middle distance young bird champion of Lisbon.. i rest my case. its in the blood. as for formula one lofts... when did this turn into a debate about you selling pigeons ?? paulo nunes when was that? i remember your son posting that a few years ago before he was banned oh happy days..
joe61 Posted March 4, 2009 Author Report Posted March 4, 2009 last year 2008 . mmmmmmmmmmm happier days now... you must have short term mamery loss you tit,
Guest chrisss Posted March 4, 2009 Report Posted March 4, 2009 calm it down lads, this is supposed to be a friendly chat, lets get back to what the title states...lets not make it personal amongst us :) it got personal when joe 61 made a very thinly veiled attack on another member on here right at the start and the mods failed to pick it up and stop it
frank-123 Posted March 4, 2009 Report Posted March 4, 2009 whats mamery mean? i remember your son trying to fleece everybody that would listen or buy now i have not been banned from the site but your son has
Guest Posted March 4, 2009 Report Posted March 4, 2009 can anyone tell me, why any fancier in this country would take on a partner from abroad , ie; Holland or any other country? is it a purely selling reason or does the great British fancier need to ride along on the back of someone bigger within our sport, we have some great British fanciers over here, Tony Mardon, Frank Tasker, Bert Hession, John Crowder, Mr Kirkland, the late great Jim Biss..... so can anyone tell me why...? Don't usually agree with you Joe,but this time you are spot on.But lets not stop at just pigeons we should be trying to BUY BRITTISH with every item we possible can with the financial crisis the country is facing at the moment. Lets try to keep as much money in this country as we can.YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU. :) Best of British once said, Great Britain..... lets put the great back in it boys and girls.. I looked in the mirror this morning and was happy to be a MEMBER of this great Country. oh happy days
joe61 Posted March 4, 2009 Author Report Posted March 4, 2009 well, he was banned because he stood up against you spineless lot when you conducted a witch hunt against him. and do you actually think by re posting my posts it will get noticed quicker... what is the problem with you lot, i made a thread it was going great until certain people thought to drag it to the gutter as you always do. as for mamery its an educated guess from you then lol and chrisss your getting very close to getting what i am thinking .... best stay clear, or you so jealous you cant keep your own council. oh happy days :)
swilcox Posted March 4, 2009 Report Posted March 4, 2009 Joe 61 Write what you will but the truth is you couldnt hold a candle to me or Raymond and the results that we have achieved and bred for others against 400 birds?????? Your sadly mistaken the West of England South Road Combine is one of the largest in the country. We have top quality stock that have won for us and many others, we fear not to put our reputation on the line every saturday infact we thrive on it. We are not the best but its our aim. Why did we form a partnership, well we get on extremely well and have similiar goals and we know that together we will bred a stronger strain and most of all we have 100% trust in each other. For UK people who know and have met Raymond will know what sort of person he is. May i add that many others have 100% trust in us including many good members on this site. Maybe me and Raymond wined you up through envy or some form of jealousy, but for me im very happy with our progress, our strain, and the pleasure we have brought others which was evident at our very successful auction in Blackpool. As you say, old happy days
Fair Play Posted March 4, 2009 Report Posted March 4, 2009 Why the same old rhetoric about foreign birds or partners if You have money to spend who am I to tell you how to spend it or what strain of birds to buy. It's like the the tele if you don't like the program turn it over or switch it off for goodness sake don't beat us over the head with how bad or good it was - SIMPLE - CLICK.
Guest Posted March 4, 2009 Report Posted March 4, 2009 id like to see you try and turn my tv over when shes watching one of her soaps
Fair Play Posted March 4, 2009 Report Posted March 4, 2009 You can alway go out to the doos save a lot of grief if you catch my drift or watch another telly
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted March 4, 2009 Report Posted March 4, 2009 must be a willy or cox member ;D ;D ;D oh happy days Good to see that Stuart has corrected the members on the site with the truth and facts. Joe You must now be feeling like a right willy - cox now,and instead of finishing your posts with "oh happy days" perhaps tonight try finishing it of with "Oh what a fool Joe's been" Dont trust anyone in the sport 100% but when it comes to Stuart and Raymond it is pretty high. Have seen the friendship that the two have together and although they are out to make a couple of quid (as do many product and pigeon sellers) i do believe that they like a lot of us that they are trying to create that something special for the UK pigeon fraternity. And Joe the post below is not a boot in the a-se of an advertisment and guess what nearly all from foreign shores. Double standards by my reckoning from what your post was started about. John , i do not wish to argue with you , your opinions are valid ones, i repspect them, but we have 23 pair nearly all breeding winners, those that do not go in the bin as you do your own, i have bought pigeons from Herman Beverdam, G & R Schalkwijk, John Kirk and Karel Meuleman, i do not buy from anyone else as i only have one colony of birds. They are proven by me or others who owned these pigeons before me, as i have bought them from them , or will be proven by others who may buy them, but i am happy never to sell pigeons, i not in the game for selling , i do it because my son is VDB crazy and will only ever have the best of this family.
joe61 Posted March 4, 2009 Author Report Posted March 4, 2009 Good to see that Stuart has corrected the members on the site with the truth and facts. Joe You must now be feeling like a right willy - cox now,and instead of finishing your posts with "oh happy days" perhaps tonight try finishing it of with "Oh what a fool Joe's been" Dont trust anyone in the sport 100% but when it comes to Stuart and Raymond it is pretty high. Have seen the friendship that the two have together and although they are out to make a couple of quid (as do many product and pigeon sellers) i do believe that they like a lot of us that they are trying to create that something special for the UK pigeon fraternity. And Joe the post below is not a boot in the a-se of an advertisment and guess what nearly all from foreign shores. Double standards by my reckoning from what your post was started about. John , i do not wish to argue with you , your opinions are valid ones, i repspect them, but we have 23 pair nearly all breeding winners, those that do not go in the bin as you do your own, i have bought pigeons from Herman Beverdam, G & R Schalkwijk, John Kirk and Karel Meuleman, i do not buy from anyone else as i only have one colony of birds. They are proven by me or others who owned these pigeons before me, as i have bought them from them , or will be proven by others who may buy them, but i am happy never to sell pigeons, i not in the game for selling , i do it because my son is VDB crazy and will only ever have the best of this family. firstly mr rankin, i do not sell dutch birds and never have oh happy days
joe61 Posted March 4, 2009 Author Report Posted March 4, 2009 who mentioned your name stuart wilcox ??? maybe its you who has a member on he's forhead its obviousley hanging in your eyes, impares your sight. i never mentioned you at all. i rest my case and anyone can win a race or comine by default... getting the real winner disqualifed... and dont talk to me about those people who make up panels of this or that commitee. it all a mess ,i seen better run kindergartens. oh happy days for all those who win by fair means.
swilcox Posted March 4, 2009 Report Posted March 4, 2009 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Lucky i have more than one combine win to shout about then
Guest strapper Posted March 4, 2009 Report Posted March 4, 2009 Good to see that Stuart has corrected the members on the site with the truth and facts. Joe You must now be feeling like a right willy - cox now,and instead of finishing your posts with "oh happy days" perhaps tonight try finishing it of with "Oh what a fool Joe's been" Dont trust anyone in the sport 100% but when it comes to Stuart and Raymond it is pretty high. Have seen the friendship that the two have together and although they are out to make a couple of quid (as do many product and pigeon sellers) i do believe that they like a lot of us that they are trying to create that something special for the UK pigeon fraternity. And Joe the post below is not a boot in the a-se of an advertisment and guess what nearly all from foreign shores. Double standards by my reckoning from what your post was started about. John , i do not wish to argue with you , your opinions are valid ones, i repspect them, but we have 23 pair nearly all breeding winners, those that do not go in the bin as you do your own, i have bought pigeons from Herman Beverdam, G & R Schalkwijk, John Kirk and Karel Meuleman, i do not buy from anyone else as i only have one colony of birds. They are proven by me or others who owned these pigeons before me, as i have bought them from them , or will be proven by others who may buy them, but i am happy never to sell pigeons, i not in the game for selling , i do it because my son is VDB crazy and will only ever have the best of this family. gareth with respect ,stuart didnt correct the members on this site with the truths and facts,as i personally wasnt aware that i needed to be corrected! me personally wouldnt care if stuart had 10 partners.... .none of my business.
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted March 4, 2009 Report Posted March 4, 2009 gareth with respect ,stuart didnt correct the members on this site with the truths and facts,as i personally wasnt aware that i needed to be corrected! me personally wouldnt care if stuart had 10 partners.... .none of my business. Paul didn't notice that you had any posts to be corrected on either cheers Gareth 10 partners, no chance Stuart is too old for the Bull system.
Guest chrisss Posted March 4, 2009 Report Posted March 4, 2009 well, he was banned because he stood up against you spineless lot when you conducted a witch hunt against him. and do you actually think by re posting my posts it will get noticed quicker... what is the problem with you lot, i made a thread it was going great until certain people thought to drag it to the gutter as you always do. as for mamery its an educated guess from you then lol and chrisss your getting very close to getting what i am thinking .... best stay clear, or you so jealous you cant keep your own council. oh happy days :) jealous no don't think so mate too busy wrapped up in my own problems to worry about your games,more puzzled that the mods never picked up on this,but then again?,what birds people have or where they fly or who they fly with is nothing to do with me i just keep a few birds [i might even race one day?]i can only assume that you and your son see other guys on here as some sort of competition?,hence the snide comments,just grow a pair and name names,rather than post junk like a 4 year old,i know you can do it
frank-123 Posted March 4, 2009 Report Posted March 4, 2009 i Joe tell the truth £500 for a pair of VAN GESTREL could not sell them untill droped price to£75 each they where old birds name the guys in this country who are topping feds with your birds lol laugh that one off laughing boy the truth hurts cheers Alan oh happy days some else who knows the truth of the infamous timbarra lofts
Guest Posted March 5, 2009 Report Posted March 5, 2009 many of you on here are a joke,you act like babys in a nursery.let me just make this point good pigeons are bought by studs that includes ME i breed young out of them i sale the young birds at a fraction of there parent cost.it cost me aprox twenty two pounds to rear per young bird plus the cost of parents,if i sale young birds at say 50 quid each it takes me two breeding seasons to get the cost of the parents back if im lucky.where would we be if there wernt any studs with top birds that we could go to and purchase babys at a fraction of the parents or grand parents cost.mr wilcox your a top auctioner iv been to sevral of your sales purchased birds from one top class and not out of my price rang.i havent got pots of money i havent fancy lofts its whats in them that counts,and yes ive given to many charity sales,novices,and good courses,and members on this site.i wish you all a great season
Guest chrisss Posted March 5, 2009 Report Posted March 5, 2009 many of you on here are a joke,you act like babys in a nursery.let me just make this point good pigeons are bought by studs that includes ME i breed young out of them i sale the young birds at a fraction of there parent cost.it cost me aprox twenty two pounds to rear per young bird plus the cost of parents,if i sale young birds at say 50 quid each it takes me two breeding seasons to get the cost of the parents back if im lucky.where would we be if there wernt any studs with top birds that we could go to and purchase babys at a fraction of the parents or grand parents cost.mr wilcox your a top auctioner iv been to sevral of your sales purchased birds from one top class and not out of my price rang.i havent got pots of money i havent fancy lofts its whats in them that counts,and yes ive given to many charity sales,novices,and good courses,and members on this site.i wish you all a great season don't think anyone was knocking studs[or sellers] i do wonder what fanciers of old did for birds [when i belive there were a lot more fanciers than now]
Guest Posted March 5, 2009 Report Posted March 5, 2009 can anyone tell me, why any fancier in this country would take on a partner from abroad , ie; Holland or any other country? is it a purely selling reason or does the great British fancier need to ride along on the back of someone bigger within our sport, we have some great British fanciers over here, Tony Mardon, Frank Tasker, Bert Hession, John Crowder, Mr Kirkland, the late great Jim Biss..... so can anyone tell me why...? Best of British once said, Great Britain..... lets put the great back in it boys and girls.. I looked in the mirror this morning and was happy to be a MEMBER of this great Country. oh happy days :-/ :-/ :-/ :
Guest Posted March 5, 2009 Report Posted March 5, 2009 don't think anyone was knocking studs[or sellers] i do wonder what fanciers of old did for birds [when i belive there were a lot more fanciers than now] They went to the top fanciers of the day, who actually raced their birds from their own back yards, and got them from him. Like I used to do from people like Alf Baker, to name but one. At least that way you knew you were getting the genuine article from a genuine racing man.
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