markswhitedoves Posted March 12, 2009 Report Posted March 12, 2009 insults should be stoped in all espects.i dont come on here much myslf anymore only when im told there is someone selling somthing i want.other wise i dont bother because it is so uncoftable to be on here not a nice forum the bullies should be banned
Roland Posted March 12, 2009 Report Posted March 12, 2009 The one site I believe it it's site, and has just been revived was Camanco. Yes many on here used it too, and no better site was there, or is there than what it was is in my oppinion ... t then what do I know lol. The archives are a wealth of knowleage and much wisdom, with a vast and varied wisdom, and thought provocative themes. This site now, is in my oppinion the number one! A bit too tame sometimes.... tends to be boring then, and it is great to see a bit of the ole heated views and debates.... Like I often say, this and any other site would struggle and go down hill fast without it in between some good sensible airing and pointers, heling hand and views.
Guest chrisss Posted March 12, 2009 Report Posted March 12, 2009 insults should be stoped in all espects.i dont come on here much myslf anymore only when im told there is someone selling somthing i want.other wise i dont bother because it is so uncoftable to be on here not a nice forum the bullies should be banned (barlbylofts)would that be you?,as for "bullies" report to mod button can be use if you do not like the tone of the post
Guest Posted March 12, 2009 Report Posted March 12, 2009 well said its about time the moderaters or who ever is running this forum done somthing about it.before there is no one left on here There are more active members than ever :-/ and if you look at the other sites they have similar issues . Don't know when you decided not to use the site cause you haven't contributed looking at posts?
sharkfin Posted March 12, 2009 Report Posted March 12, 2009 Well I must admit Ive enjoyed this thread Ive not long joined this site and just restarted after 5yrs thats why I logged on and maybe pick up a few handy birds that are up for sale.I flick through sites same way as I Flick through SKY this site is not any differant from other sites when it comes to insults and wind-ups its when it gets personal and its in full view for everybody to see, if it happened in there local club or in the pub they would get a smack in the puss and a good boot in the family jewels .The internet can bring the best out in people and the worst but when you meet the best on the sites its worth the visit
white logan Posted March 12, 2009 Report Posted March 12, 2009 asha is ok... oh happy days. spme people on here do listen far to much to others ... can they not make up their own minds..............bring back timbarra ;D ;D ;D i will vote for timbarra when they put hanging to the vote ................ then he could be hung by his short and curleys
Guest Freebird Posted March 12, 2009 Report Posted March 12, 2009 Well I must admit Ive enjoyed this thread Ive not long joined this site and just restarted after 5yrs thats why I logged on and maybe pick up a few handy birds that are up for sale.I flick through sites same way as I Flick through SKY this site is not any differant from other sites when it comes to insults and wind-ups its when it gets personal and its in full view for everybody to see, if it happened in there local club or in the pub they would get a smack in the puss and a good boot in the family jewels .The internet can bring the best out in people and the worst but when you meet the best on the sites its worth the visit Think sharkfin hits the nail on the head here especially the pub or club bit. Because the remarks are faceless with no expression they can sometimes be taken the wrong way and the thin skinned can take it personally. I have NEVER encountered any personal agro on here but can believe it does happen due to "clashes of personalities" but we are mostly adults on here so surely things can be worked out amicably between ourselves instead of having to be policed/babysat. I think the rule we should make for ourselves should be ONLY TYPE WHAT YOU (HONESTLY) WOULD SAY FACE TO FACE to another fancier.
Guest Posted March 13, 2009 Report Posted March 13, 2009 Well I must admit Ive enjoyed this thread Ive not long joined this site and just restarted after 5yrs thats why I logged on and maybe pick up a few handy birds that are up for sale.I flick through sites same way as I Flick through SKY this site is not any differant from other sites when it comes to insults and wind-ups its when it gets personal and its in full view for everybody to see, if it happened in there local club or in the pub they would get a smack in the puss and a good boot in the family jewels .The internet can bring the best out in people and the worst but when you meet the best on the sites its worth the visit ;D ;D ;D ;D
Guest strapper Posted March 13, 2009 Report Posted March 13, 2009 Think sharkfin hits the nail on the head here especially the pub or club bit. Because the remarks are faceless with no expression they can sometimes be taken the wrong way and the thin skinned can take it personally. I have NEVER encountered any personal agro on here but can believe it does happen due to "clashes of personalities" but we are mostly adults on here so surely things can be worked out amicably between ourselves instead of having to be policed/babysat. I think the rule we should make for ourselves should be ONLY TYPE WHAT YOU (HONESTLY) WOULD SAY FACE TO FACE to another fancier. i think if half said what they would say face to face they,d have about 3 members left because they would all be banned ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Guest Posted March 13, 2009 Report Posted March 13, 2009 Think sharkfin hits the nail on the head here especially the pub or club bit. Because the remarks are faceless with no expression they can sometimes be taken the wrong way and the thin skinned can take it personally. I have NEVER encountered any personal agro on here but can believe it does happen due to "clashes of personalities" but we are mostly adults on here so surely things can be worked out amicably between ourselves instead of having to be policed/babysat. I think the rule we should make for ourselves should be ONLY TYPE WHAT YOU (HONESTLY) WOULD SAY FACE TO FACE to another fancier. I've just read the above and think yep dead right ..... no dead wrong. Know exactly what you mean about face to face. When I was much younger early twenties, I was secretary of the Gurnos Social Club in Merthyr, quite notoriuos as one of the biggest and tough housing estates in Europe. We had 4000 + members and a turnover of 90 barrels plus composite a week (a barrell = 36 gallons), myself and the chairamn had the misfortune to be the only two allowed to remove a member from the club, i.e. if a committeemna wanted someone ejected we had to go and do it!! One of the worst I remember was when someone had snapped a snooker cue and miscued in to the side of someones head!! Many's a time I went to eject someone when I thought your're gonna get it but for some strange reason never did! My point is that people are not honest when drunk, far from it, the guy who put the cue in to the other guys head did it from behind and was a little weasel who wouldn't dared have gone near the other guy when sober. It's the guys who'll look you in the eye when sober that are the honest ones. Judging by pub standards is the worst for me. The other point is this is a faceless forum, the one guy says I'll put my name , don't need a psuedonym to hide behind. So you put your name , most are none the wiser, I know Bart's real name for instance, but that don't help me recognise or know where he is. A psuedonym allows openess and a certain freedom. It allows people who would say nothing at club meetings for example to express themselves and that should not be denied. Leave it to the site mods/owners to police, if you have a problem with a post like the racist comment on a recent post report it and trust the site to sort it. If they come to me and tell me I'm out of order, I may ask why and even debate it with them if they are prepared to allow me too. But I won't come bleating on here that it's a terrible site with awful members. Cause that's dihonest (and not true), if I think that why would I still post? I'll just go, as I did once before when I was unhappy about a particular issue.
Guest strapper Posted March 13, 2009 Report Posted March 13, 2009 I've just read the above and think yep dead right ..... no dead wrong. Know exactly what you mean about face to face. When I was much younger early twenties, I was secretary of the Gurnos Social Club in Merthyr, quite notoriuos as one of the biggest and tough housing estates in Europe. We had 4000 + members and a turnover of 90 barrels plus composite a week (a barrell = 36 gallons), myself and the chairamn had the misfortune to be the only two allowed to remove a member from the club, i.e. if a committeemna wanted someone ejected we had to go and do it!! One of the worst I remember was when someone had snapped a snooker cue and miscued in to the side of someones head!! Many's a time I went to eject someone when I thought your're gonna get it but for some strange reason never did! My point is that people are not honest when drunk, far from it, the guy who put the cue in to the other guys head did it from behind and was a little weasel who wouldn't dared have gone near the other guy when sober. It's the guys who'll look you in the eye when sober that are the honest ones. Judging by pub standards is the worst for me. The other point is this is a faceless forum, the one guy says I'll put my name , don't need a psuedonym to hide behind. So you put your name , most are none the wiser, I know Bart's real name for instance, but that don't help me recognise or know where he is. A psuedonym allows openess and a certain freedom. It allows people who would say nothing at club meetings for example to express themselves and that should not be denied. Leave it to the site mods/owners to police, if you have a problem with a post like the racist comment on a recent post report it and trust the site to sort it. If they come to me and tell me I'm out of order, I may ask why and even debate it with them if they are prepared to allow me too. But I won't come bleating on here that it's a terrible site with awful members. Cause that's dihonest (and not true), if I think that why would I still post? I'll just go, as I did once before when I was unhappy about a particular issue. good post albear m8
badgeman Posted March 13, 2009 Report Posted March 13, 2009 Roland ,just to correct you on the Woodward career ,you will find he was an england international and played for leicester i think.
Roland Posted March 13, 2009 Report Posted March 13, 2009 Think sharkfin hits the nail on the head here especially the pub or club bit. Because the remarks are faceless with no expression they can sometimes be taken the wrong way and the thin skinned can take it personally. I have NEVER encountered any personal agro on here but can believe it does happen due to "clashes of personalities" but we are mostly adults on here so surely things can be worked out amicably between ourselves instead of having to be policed/babysat. I think the rule we should make for ourselves :-/should be ONLY TYPE WHAT YOU (HONESTLY) WOULD SAY FACE TO FACE to another fancier. You know mucker, really suprised at this post :-/ :-/ we have tried repeatedly over a very long period of time to insult you!!! :-/ :-/ But all to no avail :P ;D ;D ;D ;D
Roland Posted March 13, 2009 Report Posted March 13, 2009 Roland ,just to correct you on the Woodward career ,you will find he was an england international and played for leicester i think. I know... and had Asha even PM me to say the same lol.... but that was only part of the gist ... Se ;D ;D ;De even I nearly make a mistake sometimes lol
Roland Posted March 13, 2009 Report Posted March 13, 2009 And Albear, 100% true. Then look at me... when I get nissd I go on and in a Light hearted pee taking way spout out to get a ride of someone. Go to bed laughing.... wake up think 'Gosh, blumming heckers wo've I upset now and got to grovel too! lol ;D ;D Mind many think I talk more sense when nissed lol.
Guest Posted March 13, 2009 Report Posted March 13, 2009 And Albear, 100% true. Then look at me... when I get nissd I go on and in a Light hearted pee taking way spout out to get a ride of someone. Go to bed laughing.... wake up think 'Gosh, blumming heckers wo've I upset now and got to grovel too! lol ;D ;D Mind many think I talk more sense when nissed lol. ;D Roly wouldn't want to upset you when your sobber, I wouldn't be quick enough to duck !! When you're a newt I'd be running pretty fast ;D ;D!!
sharkfin Posted March 13, 2009 Report Posted March 13, 2009 Good Post Albear I am a late developer when it comes to these's computer so I am not the quickest at typing or the cleverest but your post said it all for me.As for this site the information is endless there are lots of knowledgible people on all of these sites what ever hobby or pastime people have and enjoy them for what they are.cheers danny
ally mac Posted March 13, 2009 Report Posted March 13, 2009 Sharkfin I am a late developer when it comes to these's computer so I am not the quickest at typing Suite me Danny as I'm not the quickest of readers! Al
walterbmasson Posted March 13, 2009 Report Posted March 13, 2009 your right grizzal its nice to be nice and that goes for asha as well 8) 8) 8) 8)
jimmy white Posted March 13, 2009 Report Posted March 13, 2009 I would like to ask you all one question, How many of you think that the sport is in terminal decline? The answer from most would be yes. I would like to make a point relating to this site and other sites like it. We all have a responsibility to protect, nurture and promote the sport we all love. I have just returned to keeping pigeons after a 9 year absence and I missed the birth of these pigeon forums and websites. Anyone in this day and age that considers starting out in any hobby or are merely looking for information on a topic will not go and visit a local fancier or go to the library to loan a book they will visit the internet. The answer to everything now is 'stick it into google and see what it comes up with'. We are basically a shop window for new fanciers entering the sport wether we like it or not. I feel there is a responsibility on each and every one of us to do what we can to secure the long tem future of the sport otherwise there will be nobody for us to race against in the future. Some of the stuff that goes on here on this site is deplorable and I hold my hand up that in the past I have let people get under my skin and I have reacted. In all honesty I should have let it go but I feel that sometimes things have to be said but all the personal attacks and taunting of people just to get a reaction is out of order. Potential new starters looking in on this are likely to run a mile and as I have said like it or not this is the biggest medium to attract new blood into the sport. Gone are the days when there was a pigeon fancier in every street and in every family to expose youngsters to the sport of racing pigeons. I applaud the likes of Ian Mckay and the work him and others are doing to bring pigeon racing into schools as most of these kids probably dont even know that pigeon racing exists. Like it or not we all have a responsibility to act responsibly on here. There have been times when I have been extremely proud to call myself a pigeon fancier i.e when Ally Mac did all that great work for the Phoebe appeal and we all pulled together and some of the other charity auctions have had that effect also. On the other hand there are times when it is embarrassing to be assosiated with some of the bile on here, the taunting, the winding up and the baiting of people it is at times pathetic. Take a look in the mirror, are you adding value or are you just being contraversial for the sake of it. We are missing a great opportunity here. Paul. great post paul,, its nice to be nice , a very good and true post in my opinion
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