joe61 Posted March 12, 2009 Report Posted March 12, 2009 I have as you guys know been on this site for a long time now, and what i have noticed is that alot not all do alot of talking without winning, let me explain.... Firstly everyone on here is full of advice and then we find out they have not won anything, you all have sprint specialist or distance fanatic against your names or eysign enthusiast..? What my point is , is that alot give advice who have never won anything so what relevence is that advice anyway, maybe through experiances some have a good case to input some advice when asked , others and it is legion advise but have not got a clue or just take the p*ss which is wrong, could we not have on this site a measure in place which records your career record and gives you a career rating of 1-10 as a good source of information for up and coming fanciers or new starters. to help ensure they get it right, by doing this they can maybe achieve better results and remain in the sport without becoming dispondant.. also there would then be a measuring factor to the selling and buying theme on here, more you are rated the more people will want your bird and also have a confirmation of trust with the site. I am in partnership with timbarra lofts and we dont race , this will not benefit us really although we have won races , it is not meant to benefit us just the sport and the site.. let me know guys oh happy days..
Peckedhen Posted March 12, 2009 Report Posted March 12, 2009 When I was newcomer to the site, the questions I asked were answered by many people with so many different opinions that I was totally confused. Much as I appreciated everyone trying to offer me support I finally decided to approach a local fancier. I couldn't have been luckier, not only did I choose someone who always wins but, now have 'hands on' support and have made a friend for life. :)
Guest chrisss Posted March 12, 2009 Report Posted March 12, 2009 how is it all measured?,in my case i have not as yet raced a bird ,yet i have had pigeons on and off for 20 years,the reason been was, i had the birds[1988] then my daughter was born 100% disabled,so the birds had to go,then in 1992 i started again [all with the intention of racing again?] another medical setback so again the birds had to go.then in 2001 i tried again [mug or what?]in 2002 my daughter died this time i kept the birds,now i have not raced a feather,but i would like to think that after 20 on/ off years i might have picked something up?,so is any advice i might or not have as good [or bad] as a guy who has had birds for 6 months but has raced in a few races?
joe61 Posted March 12, 2009 Author Report Posted March 12, 2009 these are good questions and points, what i think should be done is each fancier has a rating of 1-10 on how many races won. also fanciers with experiance but not won should be cast with ratings 1-5 within this, so your experience withing the sport can still be rated and valued. as for confussion caused for new commers this i think would help, as the most ex and most succesful people would be listened to and the others would be ignored and not allowed to give false information, also maybe a fully qualified vet could come on board within this site for a daily update and help service.. oh happy days
joe61 Posted March 12, 2009 Author Report Posted March 12, 2009 well come on give some info guys , post your thoughts
thunderboult Posted March 12, 2009 Report Posted March 12, 2009 how many races do you think should be won to able able to give creditable advice? some people are flying in clubs against top flyers, but in other clubs they'd be winning everyweek would you not allow them to offer advice.
Guest strapper Posted March 12, 2009 Report Posted March 12, 2009 it can work but there would be many different angles to overcome, ie what have you won,how big birdage and so on,a lot of fanciers dont race nationals ,like myself but race against national fanciers . would the national fanciers have more credit to give advice over non national ?..i appreciate this would help new starters.
peterpau Posted March 12, 2009 Report Posted March 12, 2009 Count me out then. I haven't won a race for some time, but then? I only have a clock set for the nationals. I keep trying though
joe61 Posted March 12, 2009 Author Report Posted March 12, 2009 lets say if you won 3 races = rated 1 won 6=2 10=3 14=4 20=5 25=6 etc 40 race wins =10 experience rating is in years 1=1 2=2 3=3 4=4 5= excess of 5 years which will eqiuvilate to 1-2 races wins. birdage does not matter nor which club or whos in it, its kept soley balck and white, how mant races you won thundrboult ? oh happy days
Delboy Posted March 12, 2009 Report Posted March 12, 2009 It cant work m8 as you would create friction on the site. The only way round it is if everybody put there real name instead of a made up login name.Then people would know who to ask for advice, if they done their homework.
thunderboult Posted March 12, 2009 Report Posted March 12, 2009 lets say if you won 3 races = rated 1 won 6=2 10=3 14=4 20=5 25=6 etc 40 race wins =10 experience rating is in years 1=1 2=2 3=3 4=4 5= excess of 5 years which will eqiuvilate to 1-2 races wins. birdage does not matter nor which club or whos in it, its kept soley balck and white, how mant races you won thundrboult ? oh happy days i don't know off the top of my head, but i started in 2004 i remember it was 10 old bird races last year.
joe61 Posted March 12, 2009 Author Report Posted March 12, 2009 regards thunderboult if you won 10 last year this would be checked by a moderator from site to then confirm it, if in your career you won 50 races you qualify accordingly, also delby it can work , people would have to have published their real names on here, which i think would also stop arguements from behind keyboards. oh days will be happy
wullie semple Posted March 12, 2009 Report Posted March 12, 2009 It cant work m8 as you would create friction on the site. The only way round it is if everybody put there real name instead of a made up login name.Then people would know who to ask for advice, if they done their homework. yes agree with you why hide behind a screen name
joe61 Posted March 12, 2009 Author Report Posted March 12, 2009 peter pau, your advice would be warranted uder the years experience ruling, so you can still have an imput to a qualified degree . oh happy days
NW USA Posted March 12, 2009 Report Posted March 12, 2009 Censoring fanciers advice sounds rather fascist don't you think? Most people have a decent sense of reasoning, let them sort the good advice from the bad. My experience is multiple ideas will help you find something that suits your particular needs.
joe61 Posted March 12, 2009 Author Report Posted March 12, 2009 Censoring fanciers advice sounds rather fascist don't you think? Most people have a decent sense of reasoning, let them sort the good advice from the bad. My experience is multiple ideas will help you find something that suits your particular needs. facist its not, its just that some new fanciers cant determine the good advice from the bad... i could say your appearing narrow minded. but its a view you have and its not censorig its actually governing a site to a certain standard to relinquish information accordingly with good reference to judicate this.
thunderboult Posted March 12, 2009 Report Posted March 12, 2009 to many if's and but's i think. look how many diffrent systems people are flying some like young uns ,some like old ,natural, w/hood,roundabout. and it also gives the impression that people giving advice know it all, which will never be the case. how many times have you heared fancier's say the learning new things all the time. you yourself(joe) ststed you don't fly anymore so you would have no input on anything racing.
NW USA Posted March 12, 2009 Report Posted March 12, 2009 Why do you see a need to GOVERN others Joe?
joe61 Posted March 12, 2009 Author Report Posted March 12, 2009 its not a need to govern anyone, its a need to make sure this site is a benefit to all who use it without any insults being handed out... and to make sure new comers to the sport get good soundadvice from people qualified to give it. why do you seem to be any idea if change ? what are you afraid of ? oh happy days
Tony C Posted March 12, 2009 Report Posted March 12, 2009 Perhaps loft reports on basics fanciers could be the answer.
joe61 Posted March 12, 2009 Author Report Posted March 12, 2009 to many if's and but's i think. look how many diffrent systems people are flying some like young uns ,some like old ,natural, w/hood,roundabout. and it also gives the impression that people giving advice know it all, which will never be the case. how many times have you heared fancier's say the learning new things all the time. you yourself(joe) ststed you don't fly anymore so you would have no input on anything racing. no but 50 years gives me a certain amount of input to be of value , and fanciers always say they always learning something new because they never knew enough in the first place and should have been given better advice from the beginning....also winning a fair number of races over the years helps me qualify.. i think some are scared of knowing true identitys here , why ? oh happy days
NW USA Posted March 12, 2009 Report Posted March 12, 2009 As I said my experience is more information is better for me personally. I'm not so thick as to say a less experienced person can't have better ideas then a more experienced person.
joe61 Posted March 12, 2009 Author Report Posted March 12, 2009 Perhaps loft reports on basics fanciers could be the answer. tony a good input on this idea... it could well be that.. i like it
joe61 Posted March 12, 2009 Author Report Posted March 12, 2009 As I said my experience is more information is better for me personally. I'm not so thick as to say a less experienced person can't have better ideas then a more experienced person. sorry i think you are missing the point, let me ask you a question ,how many races have you won..?
NW USA Posted March 12, 2009 Report Posted March 12, 2009 sorry i think you are missing the point, let me ask you a question ,how many races have you won..? I've yet to basket for a race I'm raising my first round of racers out of a kit of 08 late hatches as we speak.
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