can anyone tell me ?

[les]

i know it,s not every ones idea of a good system but at the moment mine are on a open hole

system for about 3 hrs aday im in somerset  with open country side all around me and at the moment

i havent even spotted any type of bird of prey , not to say there not about but there leaving mine alone

but i can always tell if theres been any about all my birds go in side . im enjoying it while it last .

cheers kev

just like to inform you that i know of a few fanciers down your way that decided to do some thing about the situation [unlike some ] so perhaps you are benefiting from their efforts ,[ please dont  say where you live ] just incase  : ;)ATB

 

 

[les]

if if come up with anything that stops that ba$tard  then ill be worth a fortune .

 

it only cost 15 pence ,but you cant get every one to use it .and it is LEGAL at the moment ,please dont ask ,im p***d of telling what it is ,plus i have made and sent [free of charge ] to others but it looks like they end up in the bin or the draw for a nother day .

 

 

[les]

Hawks have there own territory to hunt and they will arrive about same time each day make note when you see them I find best time to let out between 10 and 2 all the best

sorry but if they dont kill they dont go home  at a certain time .

 

 

[greenlands]

dont think im being funny mate , as i have a theory , well my dog a german shepherd is out the back with the birds when they are out every time , and i have never had a hawk strike at the loft , but my pal down the road about 400yrds gets hit all the time WHY? he has not got a dog ,a friend across the water in alexandria club had a jack russell dog in his compound for years no hawk strikes in all that time, it had to get put down and within 2/3 weeks he had a bird killed by a sparrowhawk, i think the hawk comes past to survey they area and see's the dog and thinks hey if i hit one of those doo's and land in that garden that dog might get me and does'nt bother and goes to an easier prey, just my theory.

Not a daft one mate as good as any theory I've read.Lindsay

 

 

[Guest strapper]

it only cost 15 pence ,but you cant get every one to use it .and it is LEGAL at the moment ,please dont ask ,im p***d of telling what it is ,plus i have made and sent [free of charge ] to others but it looks like they end up in the bin or the draw for a nother day .

 

 

les can you send me some at 10p because its a recession going on ;D ;D ;D

plus ill ask if sid wants any ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

your have to tell me one day what it is lol

 

 

[blaz]

yes dogs work if you have one in garden with birds hawk wont attack

[Guest spin cycle]

 

try letting them out at diffrent times,  if the hawk attacked them in the morning don't put them out in the morning for a week or so as it will come back same time for a look. try not to leave them hanging about outside all day.

 

thats what i do. i had an attack 2 weeks ago . i generally fly open hole all day...but i've changed to just afternoons. i make sure that everything comes out initially so when they land there are plenty of 'eyes'. that way i hope either 1/ the hen has killed that morning or 2/ that instead of a few pigeons allways being about, they're in a mob or in the loft. i see my hen sparrowhawk most days ....you learn to hear them coming....the warning cries of birds in its path, woodies going up....even my 'banty' cock screeches a warning. the birds will learn too.. they'll break from the loft top at the slightest warning . keeps them fit...but i still loose a few. with ybs you just have to hope. i've had sparrowhawks since i started. goodness knows how you live with peregrines though.

[ally mac]

yes dogs work if you have one in garden with birds hawk wont attack

 

Glad it works for some but doesnt up here i'm afraid.

[les]

 

les can you send me some at 10p because its a recession going on ;D ;D ;D

plus ill ask if sid wants any ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

your have to tell me one day what it is lol

 

i will give you one to copy ,then you can give sid a lesson on how to make them ,he can  suplement his pension selling them ;D ;D ;D

 

 

[johnkdownes]

sorry but if they dont kill they dont go home  at a certain time .

 

If your birds are not out they will go else where and iff they make a kill they will make that area there regular visit thats why checking time is inportant

 

 

[THE FIFER]

you usually get a spell around april, when they have small youngsters as they go for smaller feeding like mice and small birds,

[Guest kev d]

just like to inform you that i know of a few fanciers down your way that decided to do some thing about the situation [unlike some ] so perhaps you are benefiting from their efforts ,[ please dont  say where you live ] just incase  : ;)ATB

 

i do the same thing every year some years are bad some not so bad , i think im lucky as we have a old mill

near by and some ferrels live there and every day they fly over my loft heading for the fields so they keep the hawks happy

i know my luck wount hold out but while it does they stay on a open loft , one more thing i do is i always breed some yb and put

no rings on them may be around 6 or 7 so if they get hit im not to botherd call me callous if you want but it works for me .

kev

 

 

[Guest strapper]

i will give you one to copy ,then you can give sid a lesson on how to make them ,he can  suplement his pension selling them ;D ;D ;D

 

 

it may take a few lessons but im sure ill get sid to learn  ;D ;D ;D ;D ...maybe he can have a stand down the market lol

 

 

[blaz]

lets face it its not the garden attacks that get me raging it when a bird comes back from training or a race half eaten all said and done i am applying as a volunteer for the local wildlife conservation its not a bad idea think about it

[hotrod]

y ;)ou mind and look after ALL THAT WILDSCUM SORRY LIFE.

[blaz]

it,s just raptors we need to cut back on

[Premier]

it only cost 15 pence ,but you cant get every one to use it .and it is LEGAL at the moment ,please dont ask ,im p***d of telling what it is ,plus i have made and sent [free of charge ] to others but it looks like they end up in the bin or the draw for a nother day .

 

 

sorry but ive got to ask anything that could help would be a bonus. please pm me

[ally mac]

 

sorry but ive got to ask anything that could help would be a bonus. please pm me

 

And me  

 

 

[les]

i hope i dont offend any one, but like every thing in life ,i gets a pain ,but all i can say is if ANY BODY TOOK ANY NOTICE OF WHAT I ORIGANILY WROTE  then they will point you in the right direction .

[DJ]

thanks everyone for the info/ideas its much appreciated   i think this year is gonna be far worse for us all regarding sparrowhawk attacks as ive been hit 4 times already in the last month and my birds have only been let out of my loft about 6 times in that period   i had hawk trouble last year as well but nothing like this year when they seem to hit whenever the birds go out   it doesnt help that my neighbour has a 35-40ft tree in her garden which the hawk appears from but hopefully i will be ready for it next time   i spose it had to get like this sooner or later what with bops being allowed to breed unhindered  >   there are peregrines 20 miles down the road from me so i dont spose it will be too long b4 they put in an appearance(or their young looking for their own territories)  debbie

[DJ]

come on les  tell us wot it is? pretty please   i will bid u £1   ;D  youve got us all wondering now   debbie

[Guest Owen]

Bear in mind that hawks and falcons do not reguritate their food. They must carry their kills to the nest to feed their young. They do this by tearing bits off and offering it to their little ones. This is significant because it tells you that the female sparrow hawk will be out of the scene after laying and during the rearing period. Sparrowhawks, both sexes, can not carry a pigeon, as far as I know. So there target prey will be small birds, brought to the nest by the male.  

 

The peregrine is much the same, in that the male must hunt alone while the female is sitting and taking care of the young. This means that he is very much less successful. Peregrines hunt best as a team.That's the good news. The bad news is that there are often spare birds about at any time of the year and they will hunt and kill at any time. This is paritcularly true of peregrines.

There is a lot of info on this site about how you would be able to deal with these devils. And I'm sure that if you needed more info you could ask for pms. There are plenty of very experienced people who can help.

[nittin vi]

has any one noticed that they tend to come around about the same time of day when they are hunting I noticed this a few years ago and work to their timetable  I live in a small village the  nearest loft to me is about a mile away  he gets hit a lot more than I do I only see the one S/hawk these days about 8 in the morning and at 4 in the afternoon , about 10 years ago I was hit three time s inside 40 minutes despite three men in the garden with me at the hut I suppose the dogs would have been there as well in short put the birds out for about an hour  on the hungry side so you can get them in if you dont keep them fit they have no chance  open bowl is an invitation to disaster  the guy near me is proof of that.

encourage crows to stick around your place they go for hawks for fun,

[Peckedhen]

Bear in mind that hawks and falcons do not reguritate their food. They must carry their kills to the nest to feed their young. They do this by tearing bits off and offering it to their little ones. This is significant because it tells you that the female sparrow hawk will be out of the scene after laying and during the rearing period. Sparrowhawks, both sexes, can not carry a pigeon, as far as I know.

 

 

A hen Sparrow hawk carried my Garden fantail  right down the field before dropping it. :(   Garden fantails are lighter than racing pigeons and it had already eaten some of my bird. :-/

[DJ]

sorry to hear about your fantail pecked hen  ive heard that hen sparrowhawks can carry pigeons away but havnt actually seen it yet and hope i dont have to   some of my neighbours already think im a bit of a nut job after running through their gardens trying to save my birds from the hawk but i dont know what they would think if i started running up ladders onto the roofs trying to snatch back a pigeon from the hawk :-/   the things we have to do to protect our pigeons                                 debbie