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[tommy d]

Pigeon-cree arsonist jailed for two years

 

 

 

 

 

ndrew Hubbard.

 

An arsonist who started a cree fire which killed 160 pedigree pigeons has been jailed for two years.

Andrew Hubbard was branded a coward by cree owner Raymond Hammond, who has dipped into his pit pension to replace the birds.

 

Durham Crown Court heard Mr Hammond lost birds valued at £30,000, and three crees worth another £16,000.

 

"The crees were at a Paradise Allotments in Easington Colliery," said Michael Graham, prosecuting. "There had been problems with vandalism at the allotments and one of the holders decided to stop overnight in a caravan.

 

"He was awoken at 2.30am by the loud noises of the glass in the crees breaking.

 

"Police were called and arrested this defendant in a nearby back lane.

 

"He was obviously drunk, he was sweating, smelled of smoke, and there were pigeon droppings and feathers stuck to his trainers."

 

Hubbard, 28, of Nesbit Road, Peterlee, admitted arson on July 29, last year. He was of previous good character.

 

Roger Moore, defending, said in mitigation: "While one feels for Mr Hammond's loss, this was not the worst case of arson and no human lives were put at risk.

 

"Mr Hubbard, who had not offended before this incident, appears to have been depressed and to have had far too much to drink.

 

"He functions on a pretty simple basis, and he never seems to have got over the depression caused by the death of his father."

 

Judge Peter Armstrong jailed Hubbard for two years and told him: "There was no reason for this serious offence of arson, other than you were depressed and had drunk too much.

 

"It is a sad case all round, sad for Mr Hammond because of what he has lost, but also sad for you.

 

"You have lost both your good name and your liberty."

 

Speaking after the case, Mr Hammond said: "Hubbard is a coward who creeps around at night causing bother, rather than face anyone.

 

"I'm pleased he got a jail sentence, because you know how the system works these days and I was worried he would get off.

 

"I love the birds and the sport and first went to the allotments 50 years ago with my father, when I was three years old.

 

"I've started again in a different place. It's my only hobby and once you are into the birds there is no way you can just give it up."

 

Mr Hammond said his new pigeons had had their first race at the weekend and some had done very well

 

[pigeonpete]

A custodial sentence was a good result, considering, glad he got back into it. And all the best.

[BLACK W F]

well at the very least this scumbag has got 2 years lucky it was not me judgeing him i would have  given him 10years he must be a piece of $hit

[GaryT]

An excellent result considering the offender has no previous. Judges/Magistrates hands are tied when imposing sentences and a range of penalties could have been imposed before imprisonment. Justice has been done. We need more Judges/Magistrates like this.

[mark croker]

if he was found on my allotment, he would not have got off again, there is no reason to kill someones (family) of birds and i beleive in a life for a life, 160 birds has got to b worth 25 years, just because he hasn't been caught doing it before doesn't mean that he hasn't before

[Taylorsloft]

Justice is done

[BLACK W F]

well maybe in the eyes of the law done that to me he better find some where to hide when out because if i found him then he gets my justice  

[Guest grizzler]

in one word.......scum

[BLACK W F]

HIT THE NAIL SMACK ON THE HEAD MATE

[john cumming]

i personally would have dished out a very different kind of justice, which would have left a very different kind of mark on the guy, i think our legal justice system is far to leniant nowadays

good to see mr hammond bounce back

 

jc

[Guest]

well maybe in the eyes of the law done that to me he better find some where to hide when out because if i found him then he gets my justice  

Even though I agree with your sentiment and thats how I deal with things, sadly in this pathetic state we live in its viewed as the wrong attitude and you'd be the one ending up in Jail which is exactly what *expletive removed* like that would want, they'd end up the victim then not you.   He'll get what's coming to him inside that's a fact, people don't like pathetic acts like that and I guarantee his *expletive removed* is puckering as he enters into the big house where he won't be so big no matter what size he is.    In real terms 2 years is a huge sentence for a first offence not involving a direct assault on humans and even though he deserved a hell of a lot more we have to accept it.  Does the victim know he can claim from the Criminal Compensation Injuries Board for his losses?  It might help him bear the brunt of the costs to restart.

[traynor]

he'll probably only do about 10 months

[Guest]

he'll probably only do about 10 months

Yes but 10 months of hell I hope.  

 

 

[glenrandal]

naw 10 months living it up ay our cost..............

[b.massey]

Might not do any time. He plead guilty so his sentance will get a third off it. Then early realise. Might do about 2 months then 4/6 months on tag

[BLACK W F]

when the nights are dark revenge is sweet just wait and pick right time and place then they

got to prove it

[Guest]

when the nights are dark revenge is sweet just wait and pick right time and place then they

got to prove it

That's an ideal world and this isn't an ideal world, this is modern day BW and people fight back with anything they can and no matter how big a man might be or how hard they think they are the point of a knife or impact of a 3x2 you'll drop just as good as someone 8 stone only difference in the scenario is its now YOU who have to prove the other wasn't just using self defence.  This scum will get his from those who don't care for getting their hands dirty as they are already in the big house, best way.   So with respect to everyone on the forum lets leave this big talk of revenge to the gutter where it belongs just like this piece of sh** who got two years.   Talk is cheap and action louder than words will ever be, the fact is that this guy is the one who gets the click of the door at 8 tonight and for every other night for as long as he is inside.  Hope he's in there threed up with some right nutters who just happen to be fanciers.  

 

Let's now move on to some other topic as that *expletive removed* has had enough of our airtime.   > > >

[BLACK W F]

quite right lets move on but as you say talk is cheap but problem is my memory long i never forget any one who crosses me

[Guest]

quite right lets move on but as you say talk is cheap but problem is my memory long i never forget any one who crosses me

There you go, I knew we'd have something in common.     

 

 

[pigeonpete]

please let me have a day off locking a thread :-) or you will both go to the pigeonbasics jail :-) :-)

[BLACK W F]

well i could respond to that but out of respect for the site i will not  i wonder if our lass has got the info from the libuary form ok Pete

[Guest]

please let me have a day off locking a thread :-) or you will both go to the pigeonbasics jail :-) :-)

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  ok  :'(

 

 

[av8or]

Whilst I understand emotions are running high and equally share your sentiments whole heartily, we should take a moment to appreciate efforts by other parties to secure a conviction and that this culprit (and I use the word in it's most broadest sense) has been given a custodial sentence. Irrespective of whether we consider his sentence to mirror the gravity of his offence and personally I don't, we should reap some satisfaction that any custodial sentence will affect him for the rest of his whole life.  That isn't to say, however, that I wouldn't much rather seem him hung up by his b*lls!

[retired]

Whilst I understand emotions are running high and equally share your sentiments whole heartily, we should take a moment to appreciate efforts by other parties to secure a conviction and that this culprit (and I use the word in it's most broadest sense) has been given a custodial sentence. Irrespective of whether we consider his sentence to mirror the gravity of his offence and personally I don't, we should reap some satisfaction that any custodial sentence will affect him for the rest of his whole life.  That isn't to say, however, that I wouldn't much rather seem him hung up by his b*lls!

 

Spot on he will no doubt have a difficult situation on his release - Especially if he remains in the local area for which he committed the offence.

 

Needless to say not sure prison will be that hard for him and two years will mean a few months, i know when i thought i was heading there it wasnt the thought of it that bothered me it was the fact i would miss a summer!

 

Hopefully though in his future his time in prison will affect his future employment opportunities as he will have to declare this for most jobs.

 

[blaz]

he will do 10 months 8 of which he will do in an open prison..that is my guess