LOUELLA

[Thimbles]

 

A hell of a lot more than i would ever get from louella, believe me i have had their rubbish on more than one occasion,  but if you want to waste your money then go ahead, i dont need to i own better stock than you'll ever likely to own in your life time.

Thats a bit big headed of you but i agree not that you have the best stock on here as i do.I agree your just buying crap from louella very wild crap at that aswell

 

 

[BLACK W F]

your taken this the wrong way mate  you have not got a clue what i have or have not got i was trying to give you an example but i will tell you i have access to lofts you could only dream about   i was trying to show the ratio there are a lot of good birds come from louella  there is always going to be a high percentage of duds like all lofts  thats the reason i asked that questions

[Guest pigeon82]

i had youngsters from my dad which he bought from louella last year had 4 got 2 left one of those got me 1st club 98 miles and the other got me 2nd club 179 miles im happy with louella birds i and my dad have never had problems with them

[holmsidelofts]

Thats a bit big headed of you but i agree not that you have the best stock on here as i do.I agree your just buying crap from louella very wild crap at that aswell

 

 

now thats the kind of person i like some one talks the truth, I have nothing against louella in fact i think as a business they do extremely well, and for someone starting up in the sport i think its not bad value for money but any serious fancier would have to pay a fortune to get the goods from louella, my other problem with big studs are they are in business to make money, you cant tell me if you wanted say for instance rolland jansens and they didnt have any available they would tell you that, you would be given what ever they had and you would be none the wiser, its the difference between a sale or not, and they wouldnt loose a sale i guarantee you that. a pedigree is only as valuable as the paper its printed on unless you have a a dna test thats the only way to prove if that bird you purchase is from the pedigree its supplied with.

 

 

[Thimbles]

I find louellas birds just upset my loft bouncing off the walls and trying to go through the roof everytime i looked at them

[Guest pigeon82]

Thats a bit big headed of you but i agree not that you have the best stock on here as i do.I agree your just buying crap from louella very wild crap at that aswell

 

what proof do you have that these birds are wild crap you have none so you cant say that i know a few people who have bought from them plus when im talking to the people they say its notjust the pigeon that does the hard work have you thought of that perhaps you dont know what to do to get the best from these birds because a few people have had no problems with louella pigeons i have no problems in fact first race 1st club cant beat that

 

 

[holmsidelofts]

your taken this the wrong way mate  you have not got a clue what i have or have not got i was trying to give you an example but i will tell you i have access to lofts you could only dream about   i was trying to show the ratio there are a lot of good birds come from louella  there is always going to be a high percentage of duds like all lofts  thats the reason i asked that questions

 

i dont dispute that mate, the same as you dont know me, Ive been in the sport for 30 years and have had the opportunity to visit and befriend some of the best fanciers in the world, im not having a go at you im just stating a fact, about big studs, The quality of the birds i have had from them on the 2 occasions i did purchase from them were very poor, one of them couldnt have been no older than 15 - 18 days old, no feathers under the wing, they never raced well, or breed anything. to get the best you have to have a relationship with the person who sells them, as you know that any way.

It wasnt a go at you as i said i dont know you but i know from my experiences with louella, i was at the blackpool show this year and thought louellas birds were some of the worst pigeons there. but thats just my opinion.

 

Jas

[BLACK W F]

now thats correct but i am sure you must agree  without dna testing none of us can guarentee what ck they are off un less in single flight  box ect  but there must be some trust

if you look at the brasspennings  1 was off the auto winner just an example  where as i would maybe buy a couple of pair i still prefer birds to come off either the producing pairs or prizewinners   as there are only 2 types the ones that score and the ones that breed them

the others just eat corn and crap and we all got plenty of them

[Thimbles]

what proof do you have that these birds are wild crap you have none so you cant say that i know a few people who have bought from them plus when im talking to the people they say its notjust the pigeon that does the hard work have you thought of that perhaps you dont know what to do to get the best from these birds because a few people have had no problems with louella pigeons i have no problems in fact first race 1st club cant beat that

 

I beg you pardon i have purchased birds from louella  and they were the wildest pigeons i have ever seen.It was older stock i bought which were for stock purposes but due to there bad behaviour they never made the stock section apart from 1 cock

 

 

[Guest pigeon82]

what im trying to say is sorry if it came out wrong i spend nearly 2 to 3 hrs every day in my loft i only have a small loft but all my birds will eat from my hand and anything that comes in if doesnt eat from my hand it will starve till it does i try to keep themtame as possiblebest way but think about how many birds they have they will never have enough people to do this butmy dad does the same he buys them young to try and tame them and most do get tame

[Blue Chequer Pied]

It is a bit like the national lottery! Somebody wins it most weeks and you see them in the papers but you never hear about the 8,789,254 people who win nothing every week.  8)

 

Paul.

[BLACK W F]

paul you know plenty guys done well with birds from there

[Thimbles]

Do you think at louella they handle all there stock..Idont think so You wont have a problem with there ybs as you can tame them easier.Its not good to have your birds too tame apparently they ill go down easier on a bad day

[Blue Chequer Pied]

paul you know plenty guys done well with birds from there

 

I know plenty of guys that have won a tenner on the lottery and put on hundreds of pounds a year doesn't mean I will be buying lottery tickets!  

 

Paul.

[holmsidelofts]

now thats correct but i am sure you must agree  without dna testing none of us can guarentee what ck they are off un less in single flight  box ect  but there must be some trust

if you look at the brasspennings  1 was off the auto winner just an example  where as i would maybe buy a couple of pair i still prefer birds to come off either the producing pairs or prizewinners   as there are only 2 types the ones that score and the ones that breed them

the others just eat corn and crap and we all got plenty of them

 

I totally agree, nobody breeds all winners, and louella has breed champions from the birds that they have but you would expect them to based upon the amount that they breed, but for me they dont impress im afraid, but thats just my opinion, i would rather go out there and purchase proven winners or breeder than taking a chance, the problem is that its not just the cost of buying the birds its  cost of keeping them when they dont win, or produce, but thats the nature of our sport really, to be the best its not all about spending the most money its a lot more than that.

 

[BLACK W F]

yes i am in agreement with that the best birds are usually what you get as gifts or are recommended  by a friend you usually get a good deal and i have been in plenty top lofts

and offered birds off their best but new they would not fly in my area  horses for corses

does not mean the birds or fancier no good just the way it is

[holmsidelofts]

now thats correct but i am sure you must agree  without dna testing none of us can guarentee what ck they are off un less in single flight  box ect  but there must be some trust

if you look at the brasspennings  1 was off the auto winner just an example  where as i would maybe buy a couple of pair i still prefer birds to come off either the producing pairs or prizewinners   as there are only 2 types the ones that score and the ones that breed them

the others just eat corn and crap and we all got plenty of them

 

I totally agree, nobody breeds all winners, and louella has breed champions from the birds that they have but you would expect them to based upon the amount that they breed, but for me they dont impress im afraid, but thats just my opinion, i would rather go out there and purchase proven winners or breeder than taking a chance, the problem is that its not just the cost of buying the birds its  cost of keeping them when they dont win, or produce, but thats the nature of our sport really, to be the best its not all about spending the most money its a lot more than that.

 

[Guest pigeon82]

i dont think they do to be honest i lost one real tame one not louella but had 5 races before she disappeared but i think tame is gud

[billt]

what im trying to say is sorry if it came out wrong i spend nearly 2 to 3 hrs every day in my loft i only have a small loft but all my birds will eat from my hand and anything that comes in if doesnt eat from my hand it will starve till it does i try to keep themtame as possiblebest way but think about how many birds they have they will never have enough people to do this butmy dad does the same he buys them young to try and tame them and most do get tame

 

Me tame doesn't come into it, they're here to race, whats that all about

[Guest pigeon82]

 

Me tame doesn't come into it, they're here to race, whats that all about

 

they might be there to race but first and foremost its a hobby and theyre pets in mine and the wifes eyes we spend loads of time with our birds and thats whats important this is where i think alot of people forget themselves pigeon racing should be predominantly a hobby thats first and foremost

[billt]

 

they might be there to race but first and foremost its a hobby and theyre pets in mine and the wifes eyes we spend loads of time with our birds and thats whats important this is where i think alot of people forget themselves pigeon racing should be predominantly a hobby thats first and foremost

 

I agree tottaly with you there, mine are pets Ihave respect for them they are racing pigeons

[Guest pigeon82]

this is a problem but aloot of people do not  see there birds as pets that is whats wrong with the sport these days

[billt]

this is a problem but aloot of people do not  see there birds as pets that is whats wrong with the sport these days

 

Yeh I agree, I keep seeing on here threads like putting it in the bin because it's not trapping quickly, y/birds are only babies  

[Guest pigeon82]

 

Yeh I agree, I keep seeing on here threads like putting it in the bin because it's not trapping quickly, y/birds are only babies  

thats right i will do every thing possible to get birds back as young birds or old birds still learning they r the same as us were learning summit new every day and so are the birds

 

 

[billt]

thats right i will do every thing possible to get birds back as young birds or old birds still learning they r the same as us were learning summit new every day and so are the birds

 

 

good man (and wife) pigeon ;D