The Toulet Clock

[Guest youngzimmy]

FAR TO MANY OPINIONATED PEOPLE IN PIGEON RACING IF ITS LEGAL AND SOMONE WANTS TO USE IT WHY NOT I ONLY HOPE HE HAS THREE HUNDRED YOUNGSTERS TO PUT THREW LOT OF GUTTIES

[Roland]

Sorry Gareth Rankin, that 'I can't see any one leaving the sport for that etc' has been said only too well and too often where as the real fact of the matter just too often these thoughts and actions have done just that.

I will side with you on the fact any clock not up to scratch should be thrown out. This has and does happen in all the clubs I've been in and am in. Quite rightly so too I’d say. However all the clubs now also have spares, normally like Benz etc. So that is not a problem

May I just state a real, and true fact that I was involved in just 4 years ago.

I was using a toulet. Was a good timekeeper, no two ways about that!

I had this feeling that it was a blunt of a joke; indeed via a couple I was regarded as a 'Joke'. I for whatever reason at the time, couldn’t see my way clear at the time to buy a good second hand one say for £60 - £80... A T3 was fetching second hand around £250.

But this was never an issue.

Well this horrid smarmy idiot had the gall and was showing off at my expense I found out later. He was under the false impression that because he was friendly with the so called Local hard case he was free to deride me ... Anyway he saw my clock and smirked, spouting 'Was that the one that Noah used on the Ark'.

I was embarrassed! I said through my teeth that if he ever gets birds as good as those this clock has timed in he would be some flyer and was debating whether to hold back the urge of throttling him. I didn't. Next meeting as per normal I was first there and at the bar being served when he came over and said 'I'll get that'. I told him nicely to go away, that he'd get it over him for sure and that I felt, that as he was a pee taker he was 2 seconds from being splattered. He moved. Later it came about that he had been put straight via some that knew me. He fortunately left that club. The 'Hard case' always scrapes a bit to bit the pathetic slob. And he has also left the club. Good. But I too very well nearly left the club. I was pig ignorant if you like to stay. Others don't. Many make excuses agreed why they leave, but mostly it is for them very reasons as you say 'I can't see any one leaving the sport for that etc'. Who are we to dictate, coerce, cajole and put downers on others because they can’t or won’t for whatever reason act and do, and buy as we feel they should.

Said my piece, and yes I do see other slants, but hey, it doesn’t really matter a jot as and how they time in AS LONG as they still do!

 

[Roland]

;DGareth wrote Sorry to hear you cant speak the truth until you have had a drink, Lol  

  'neither would i laugh at a member who could not afford a stb, t3 or ETS but its not a wealth thing that you seem to like to make out as most of the time it is just down to members choice which is generally because it is what they are use too.

Some truth there, but for  most starters the reality is that it is a wealth thing.  And for many other comittments in this recession it is a wealth thing.Granted the SB's etc. have come down, and some are moving up to them.

 

'As to you comments regarding a level playing field, this will never happen which is a problem as there are many areas within the sport that this applies to, i.e. number of pigeons being sent, trapping systems, how many in a partnership, loft location etc etc, so get off your Horse and stop swigging from the hip flask.

 

Now I don't follow on this as I never implied or spouted as such. And personally I love the so called mobb flyers. They help keep my costs down, and further the reality is no different for one sending 80 birds and 10 sending 8, they are there to be beat just the same. Also many are there for a future race and not on song for this one.

Just to add this topic you posted hasn't the slightest to do with ET's etc. and this wasn't, isn't been implied.

[Guest big slim]

I agree with Gareth. Toulets have had their day. Anybody can have an S.T.B. for a maximum of 20 quid. As for forcing E.T.S. on people, Andrew Kerr is the oldest member in Danderhall R.P.C. and would not have an E.T.S. for free, most of us have, but he still won Old bird and Combined averages using an S.T.B.

[Guest frank dooman]

 

I agree wholeheartedly. There are many new starters, whose hard of a shilling! Only too pleased to start off with and use as such.

Sorry I again get that horrid 'We can afford’ so 'Stuff them' attitude that stinks!

Never mind if most can afford, and it in reality it matters not a jot to you that can afford better or ET's, etc. Just when and how it doesn't affect those THAT CAN afford one ‘State of the Art one! Shame! Shame on you! Time, (but it won't happen) for some to take a sit back and remember. Many 20 odds year olds that have a hard time with Mortgages, a couple of kids etc. etc. and a wife that sees money - in her realistic, and one bearing credence - money spent where it could and should go into the house hold in her view!

Gosh just where do some people get off, or live? Not in the real world and that’s for sure! Tis time I think for some to get off cuckoo cloud and face facts and reality!

If it means a poorer member using a toulet and give away every week a mass of time / seconds and eventually Trap Shy Birds’ to those that ‘Can Afford' then time surely to have compassion and not stick another boot in! Gosh just why should you care? Oh I know you want to beat them fair and square every week  and not have any advantage eh!

Or just feel you want to gloat and kick them when down and not give any chance, if possible, for them to get up eh!

What does it matter to you how he flies and clocks injust as long as he is able and can!

Oh I know, you want a whip round, or buy him / her a new ET set up!

 

here here well said roly

[Guest frank dooman]

so will the clubs banning thease clocks be buying the members replacements? they are still passed clocks the union would have to put them out first!

[Delboy]

I timed into my T3 and looked out my door to see another bird land on the loft  of another fancier, flying 60 yds further than me. His bird trapped immediately and he was inside waiting at the trap to clock in extra fast time.He used a TOULET  and at clock check I obviously thought I had narrowly beat him. I was the secretary at the time and I read the clock dials ( 10 second ) Unbelievably, when I made up result, I was beat with point of a yard for 1st place. My point here is, TOULET clocks are not accurate enough  and rely on human assumption. When a result is very close then the dials in a toulet clock can be read a couple of seconds either way. This is not efficient enough nowadays, therefore I would back the banning of Toulet clocks.

[Guest bigda]

rid the old timers  i  say

[Roland]

Delboy, like everyone says, especially when it suits,  'You will never have a level playing field'. Gosh 2 seconds eh! Well obviously you was beat by a better bird on the day.

We give ET's 17 to 20 seconds each race and that they call that 'Progress' and 'The way forward'  :-/ :-/

It is simply down to 'Just what gives some the right to rock a system working for no more than sillyness, innate of sensible reason?. Many of us cut our teeth learning to set toulets and Sky masters, and certainly No club has a problem with them.

There is one certainy though IT isn't the toulet boys whinging to have a newer time piece. When they do, I think there may be, just might be a case for the 65% to say 'Whoa on now, time we raised some dosh to buy them better second hand time pieces, or give them those they are not using.

By then they will have accepted in good grace your generous offers.

[Guest Greig the doo Drysdale]

how about banning ETS the toulet has been here alot longer "come on the toulet"

[Roland]

rid the old timers  i  say

 

;D ;D ;D and have 4 members to each club tops, all using the 'Ghost Timers' to raise some interest in the sport lol  ;D ;D

[paddymac]

how about banning ETS the toulet has been here alot longer "come on the toulet"

 

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Delboy]

how about banning ETS the toulet has been here alot longer "come on the toulet"

 

CHEAPOS  ;D ;D ;D ;D You get an Stb now for 30 bob and a balloon  ;D ;D

[Guest bigda]

 

;D ;D ;D and have 4 members to each club tops, all using the 'Ghost Timers' to raise some interest in the sport lol  ;D ;D

 

your on the ball roland

[cheeseman]

when i first started racing ybs 1978 in the mount pleasant club, ghd fed, i used a invincible 6 bird puncture clock, an timed in the next season from beauvais with ,if i had been told then that i couldnt join the club unless i had a printer,i would never of knowing the excilleration of winning a race,piont is it wouldnt have mattered if it was a toulet,stb or a benzing, its always guid to time in.(rember the days when you had to run to 1 clock).

[Fair Play]

I have an 1998 car runs perfectly well does that mean i should sell it and buy a newer more expensive model - If it's not broke don't fix it

[bewted]

 

;D ;D ;D and have 4 members to each club tops, all using the 'Ghost Timers' to raise some interest in the sport lol  ;D ;D

 

 

thats ok roland,,,still got one of the ghost timers here in good working order still !!!!!

 

[slatey]

toulets want kicking out

you can buy a quarts clock from £20

i have set a toulet this year in north midlands c c

i could not beleve it first time i had set one for about 5 yrs

[Delboy]

Delboy, like everyone says, especially when it suits,  'You will never have a level playing field'. Gosh 2 seconds eh! Well obviously you was beat by a better bird on the day.

We give ET's 17 to 20 seconds each race and that they call that 'Progress' and 'The way forward'  :-/ :-/

It is simply down to 'Just what gives some the right to rock a system working for no more than sillyness, innate of sensible reason?. Many of us cut our teeth learning to set toulets and Sky masters, and certainly No club has a problem with them.

There is one certainy though IT isn't the toulet boys whinging to have a newer time piece. When they do, I think there may be, just might be a case for the 65% to say 'Whoa on now, time we raised some dosh to buy them better second hand time pieces, or give them those they are not using.

By then they will have accepted in good grace your generous offers.

 

My point is nothing to do with who had the better bird, it was to emphasise how inaccurate toulet clocks are at times. Move with the times Roland

 

 

 

[Roland]

My point is nothing to do with who had the better bird, it was to emphasise how inaccurate toulet clocks are at times. Move with the times Roland

And if the The Clock that wins your race is a Toulet SO WHT

Move on with the time you say

WHY WHY WHY???

If not broken and doesn't need fixing Then I ask YOU, what is this 'Times' we need to move on with

:-/ :-/ Seems to me another case of forcing and belittlement of the members who are happy as things are THAT YOU!!!! want to move o.... Why??? Because you you feel there is a soudo need to live and race as you percieved things ought to be :-/ :-/

Cods wallop, if many are happy with giving youy 20 seconds each race, time I say 'Belt up' and be thankful that they allow you unacountable advantage and be grateful.

Gosh, that 2 seconds you mistakenly thought cost you the race will soon mean that you have even less advatage.... And still you will needless moan. Grow up and accept. I mean just why do you want to pee of some that very well may pack up altogether, or be even 18 seconds better of than ou  :-/ :-/ :o

Ands Jesus wept!

o :-/

 

 

 

 

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

My point is nothing to do with who had the better bird, it was to emphasise how inaccurate toulet clocks are at times. Move with the times Roland

And if the The Clock that wins your race is a Toulet SO WHT

Move on with the time you say

WHY WHY WHY???

If not broken and doesn't need fixing Then I ask YOU, what is this 'Times' we need to move on with

:-/ :-/ Seems to me another case of forcing and belittlement of the members who are happy as things are THAT YOU!!!! want to move o.... Why??? Because you you feel there is a soudo need to live and race as you percieved things ought to be :-/ :-/

Cods wallop, if many are happy with giving youy 20 seconds each race, time I say 'Belt up' and be thankful that they allow you unacountable advantage and be grateful.

Gosh, that 2 seconds you mistakenly thought cost you the race will soon mean that you have even less advatage.... And still you will needless moan. Grow up and accept. I mean just why do you want to pee of some that very well may pack up altogether, or be even 18 seconds better of than ou  :-/ :-/ :o

Ands Jesus wept!

o :-/

 

 

 

 

Roland

Please give deep consideration into the following two options as you post above borders on one from the insane. :P ;D ;D

 

http://www.realstraitjackets.com/

or

http://northamptonstatehospital.com/

 

Or are you just back from the pub again ;D ;D ;D