Has anyone had this ?

[Kyleakin Lofts]

I don't know about pigeons, but with dogs, white can be affected by environment, within and outwith the womb.  This can result in white hairs on a newborn because of deficiencies whilst in the womb, but these white hairs change on casting whilst growing and due to a better environment, less deficiencies, change to the natural colour.

This would seem the same in pigeons given the information that the base colour to the quill is dark, or the white flight is partly coloured and on moulting changes.  Whether subsequent changes could be caused by feeding or other environmental changes is interesting.

The main point will be whether it improves as a yearling and further develops into a better bird.  If this is the case I am quite sure the flight will not be a consideration.

Interesting to hear this though.

[jimmy white]

 

seen a lot of the chocolate meulemans do this jimmy start of chocolate and end up nearly white ??)

 

thank goodness someone agreed ;D ;D ;D thought i was going to take a hammering on that one  ;D ;D ;D

 

ill go one further,, [dead set on getting this hammering ;D ;D ;D],,,,,has anyone seen a blue cheq, with a red cheq wing,,, seriously ;D  i did have one once   i was like tommy cooper at the club marking,, now its a blue cheq, now its a red cheq, just by turning it ;D ;D ;D  [maybe need to be henry cooper now ;D ;D ;D]

[Guest stb-]

 

thank goodness someone agreed ;D ;D ;D thought i was going to take a hammering on that one  ;D ;D ;D

 

ill go one further,, [dead set on getting this hammering ;D ;D ;D],,,,,has anyone seen a blue cheq, with a red cheq wing,,, seriously ;D  i did have one once   i was like tommy cooper at the club marking,, now its a blue cheq, now its a red cheq, just by turning it ;D ;D ;D  [maybe need to be henry cooper now ;D ;D ;D]

 

yes jimmy you do get haf siders m8  look quite funny

[Guest JonesyBhoy]

Ye had it this year.. first ive seen it before... ch cock with a white flight on one wing and half a white flight on the other. He was the doo i posted th pic of that was hit by a BOP.. moulted the two flights in cheq..

[Guest frank dooman]

 

thank goodness someone agreed ;D ;D ;D thought i was going to take a hammering on that one  ;D ;D ;D

 

ill go one further,, [dead set on getting this hammering ;D ;D ;D],,,,,has anyone seen a blue cheq, with a red cheq wing,,, seriously ;D  i did have one once   i was like tommy cooper at the club marking,, now its a blue cheq, now its a red cheq, just by turning it ;D ;D ;D  [maybe need to be henry cooper now ;D ;D ;D]

 

yes ive seen that

[Delboy]

 

had it many times derik ,in fact if you had looked closely at it before it moulted right at the root of the flight  you would have seen that it is dark coloured ,i have had ones that are white at the top one third  of the flight and dark/normal coloured the rest. cant remember if any were that special that had this .  

 

This one was 7th west section yb National £176, beaten into trap by loft mate,  so far so good Stuart ps to Jimmy White, i have owned a pigeon with a red wing and a ch wing.

[Big Davie]

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This one was 7th west section yb National £176, beaten into trap by loft mate,  so far so good Stuart ps to Jimmy White, i have owned a pigeon with a red wing and a ch wing.

Jim Hannah and his brother Davie when they flew in partneship in the mid 1970,s flew one that was blue on one wing and mealy on the other wing.

 

 

[jimmy white]

Jim Hannah and his brother Davie when they flew in partneship in the mid 1970,s flew one that was blue on one wing and mealy on the other wing.

 

 

just  curious  here wonder what colour you would breed from red ch /b cheq ,,, paired with the b bar/meally

[Guest JonesyBhoy]

 

just  curious  here wonder what colour you would breed from red ch /b cheq ,,, paired with the b bar/meally

 

When you pair a red cheq with a blue is that not what produces red cheqs with black splashes..??

 

Ive a red cheq cock with some blue tail flights... they were black until he moulted just there...

[jimmy white]

 

When you pair a red cheq with a blue is that not what produces red cheqs with black splashes..??

 

Ive a red cheq cock with some blue tail flights... they were black until he moulted just there...

 

not sure about that one jonesy,, but know that most of the reds with black splashes are cocks, the red ch hens that have dark splashes are usualy dark brown if looked closely

 

i had a dark grizzle y,b , now moulted out a very light grizzle

 

strange thing this genetics ;D ;D ;D i had a bull terrier crossed with a  schitsu ,, the pups were bullschits ;D ;D ;D ;D

[ill get my books for that one ;D ;D ;D]

[Guest JonesyBhoy]

 

not sure about that one jonesy,, but know that most of the reds with black splashes are cocks, the red ch hens that have dark splashes are usualy dark brown if looked closely

 

i had a dark grizzle y,b , now moulted out a very light grizzle

 

strange thing this genetics ;D ;D ;D i had a bull terrier crossed with a  schitsu ,, the pups were bullschits ;D ;D ;D ;D

[ill get my books for that one ;D ;D ;D]

 

Lol... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

I think i read it in an article by Richard Howey.. that pairing the red cocks with blue hens produce the red cocks with the balck splashes...

[jimmy white]

 

Lol... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

I think i read it in an article by Richard Howey.. that pairing the red cocks with blue hens produce the red cocks with the balck splashes...

 

quite possibly , but remember many old scottish strains , good hard long distance type,, the old blood reds with the black splashes,, many of these originated from dr anderson ,, also remember, birrel of douglass water having these, in fact geordie bain [bain, wallace and spalding] the first partnership to win a snfc gold award, had these pigeons,, beautifull blood reds, bold headed, big wattled  cocks , all the birds now seem to look henny ;D compared to these anyway

[Guest casbri]

few years since ibred a yb blue chequer on 1 side redchequer on the other side