Guest karl adams Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 i think the markers on basketing night will need to have plasters with them as some birds struggle like mad so i think there will be a few scratches ;D ;D ;D ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark proctor Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 just been to pick mine up,,think there crap,,flimsy cheap plastic,,smaller.....and sharp edges as well... :( :( :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest the quiet man Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 i am not very happy with them. i feel that the edges will make ybs in the nest uncomfortable and as suggested chip eggs next year. if you are into ets, fine but what about all those who require nothing more than the rings we normally get. i see this as another step to forcing everyone onto ets. as previously suggested a false ets chip for those without ets to insert might have been a compromise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Just heard last night that there are members from this area who have joined the NWHU to get their rings.I haven't got mine yet but my mate says he doesn't like them.Will pass comment when I get them. i went to a "pigeon presentation " night last night they have N.W.H.U. rings (was told union not accepting any more members this year ,cant cope with the request for rings) andy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwh Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 the new rings for 2010 whats your opinion on them with ledges on for ets..what would happen if you filed lugs of rings ...your opinion please....i use a t3.. will eggs get broke when birds are pired in 2011 seaon with hese rings on b4 u file anything check with rpra as this may b classed as tampering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest the quiet man Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 i went to a "pigeon presentation " night last night they have N.W.H.U. rings (was told union not accepting any more members this year ,cant cope with the request for rings) andy. if the rpra doesnt start taking the members opinions into consideration the likes of the nwhu are going to have to order a lot more rings for next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest karl adams Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 a lot of members have joined the N W H U pity they cant accept more as i think i will be looking to join them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 I dont have problem with them print is smaller but ring same size, cant see the fins on them breaking eggs jmo.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIGEON_MAN Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 I use the unikon Ets system and they do not even have insert's for the rings this year, so why change the life rings if the ETS company's don't even have the chip inserts, keep the old style life ring. jmo Regards IF you have the BHW check on page 107 you will see the UNIKON new inserts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catchthepigeon Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Why is the rpra only catering for ets il never be on ets so why should i put stupid rings on my birds these rings r going to be troublesome come the breeding season between ybs getting injured by there own rings or the parents rings as they get on and of the nest and because of the silly design ring covers wont fit on if there forcing us to use these rings they should supply the ets to go with them not that i would use an ets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roll up Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 you will have a game to get the rubbish out offf the grooves once it has dride in when you come to fit the chip in think you will strugle jmo picked a young bird up today off the nest and 2 bacca stalks were wedged in the split they are crap : : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorsy bank lofts Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 They should be supplied with a blank insert in them, that can be removed by those with etc. I can only see problems with these rings, possibility of broken eggs, ETS chips slipping out, lugs breaking off. We need progress but the RPRA's attitude on one step forward and two back is what is halting progress in a positive way. i to think they should be supplied with blanks, may be someone will supply them in diffrent colours then you could use them instead if clip rings or pairing rings with numbers on???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest casbri Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 thanks for your feedback on rigs i thuoght it was only me that thought they were crap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest j v ward Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 if you send to race and pigeons are ruberd on both legs it will not be easy to get ruber off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest karl adams Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 i think the only thought that as gone into these new rings was to make them look as tho they have adapted them to accommodate for the e t s chip the same chip fitted on the old ring better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_T Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Rubbish, can't be defaced in any way or they become void. They should be developing a normal race ring that embraces the chip within the ring itself. All the time we have these add ons, they can still be removed and used by others. Another rip off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenrandal Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 don't like them at all they look on the small size compared to last years ring.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demolition man Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 i race on ets but these ring are crap, jmo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parrot Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 GOT MY RINGS TODAY, IF RINGS CHIP EGGS, SIMPLY, SAVE OLD RACE RUBBERS AND SLIP OVER THE RING WHEN BREEDING. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest puresoontjen Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 THE NEW RINGS ARE SLIGHTLY BIGGER SEE FOR YOUR SELF. GET A FAGBUT AND PUT IT IN THE HOLE IT FITS SNUG IN THE 2010 ONES. DO THE SAME TO THE 2009 RINGS ITS A LOT HARDER TO PUSH THE FAGBUT THROUGH. AND I PHONED THE APRA TODAY TO SEE IF I CAN TAKE THE ENDS OFF THE RINGS SHE SAID NO IT THEN BECOMES VOID IF I FILED THE ENDS DOWN.SHE SAID THE RPRA HAS HAD A NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT THEM. SHE GAVE ME A PHONE NUMBER TO A MR LAWLEY TO COMPLAIN TO HIM 0121-5258024 OR 07724-784796 HE WILL DEAL WITH ALL COMPLAINTS CONCERNING THE ETS RINGS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVIDL Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 AND I PHONED THE APRA TODAY TO SEE IF I CAN TAKE THE ENDS OFF THE RINGS SHE SAID NO IT THEN BECOMES VOID IF I FILED THE ENDS DOWN.SHE SAID THE RPRA HAS HAD A NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT THEM. SHE GAVE ME A PHONE NUMBER TO A MR LAWLEY TO COMPLAIN TO HIM 0121-5258024 OR 07724-784796 HE WILL DEAL WITH ALL COMPLAINTS CONCERNING THE ETS RINGS. good point there pure soontjen, they are alright saying the ring is void if the lugs are took off......but where do we stand if the lugs break of further down the line eg when the bird is a yearling.....? cant the bird be raced because it is classed as void....? at our club meeting yesterday one member had sent some rings back because some of the lugs had broken off in the bag, but the rpra either plamed the post office for being rough with them or also blamed it on the cold weather.......???? i think there is trouble ahead with these new rings...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tom123 Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 my 2009 dutch youngsters are carrying these rings everyones complaining about they are currently sitting between 12 and 14 days and has yet no broken eggs just speaking has i find granted you will get the odd one or two i suppose but then you also get pairs fighting smashing eggs which will be blamed on the rings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest puresoontjen Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 AND I PHONED THE APRA TODAY TO SEE IF I CAN TAKE THE ENDS OFF THE RINGS SHE SAID NO IT THEN BECOMES VOID IF I FILED THE ENDS DOWN.SHE SAID THE RPRA HAS HAD A NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT THEM. SHE GAVE ME A PHONE NUMBER TO A MR LAWLEY TO COMPLAIN TO HIM 0121-5258024 OR 07724-784796 HE WILL DEAL WITH ALL COMPLAINTS CONCERNING THE ETS RINGS. good point there pure soontjen, they are alright saying the ring is void if the lugs are took off......but where do we stand if the lugs break of further down the line eg when the bird is a yearling.....? cant the bird be raced because it is classed as void....? at our club meeting yesterday one member had sent some rings back because some of the lugs had broken off in the bag, but the rpra either plamed the post office for being rough with them or also blamed it on the cold weather.......???? i think there is trouble ahead with these new rings...... ive just tried to snap one of the lugs off with my teeth and tried to squeeze them together no sign of them brakeing but left my teeth marks on the ring. so i wouldnt of thought they will brake that easy. as far as they might break the eggs i dont know i dont think any will know this intill we all start to breed next year to see the out come time will only tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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