breaking off from main drag

[Guest IB]

I think when you train you should try to tick all the boxes so you achieve certain things in your birds. In YBs I usually train them always as a group, and just out to 20 miles, usually early evening. But I do try to go west & north with them at least once. I also like a couple of trainers with another clubmate who lies north west of me, to teach them to break. Where they do that is up to them, but he can tell me if they've followed his & then turned back which happens for maybes their first 2 trainers as he's got the drag 30/40 birds against my 12/15, then they'll come straight.

 

When yearlings, I extend trainers to 40 miles, and from mid-May single them up, and I try to do a fan-shape covering SE approaches to my loft ( that's from eastern Scottish Borders). I don't drive so that's not easy for me to do. But there is new rail services & stations coming at Stow & Galashiels, and East Linton, Dunbar & Reston, so it will get easier for me. Dunbar is a new service, so I've got an easy 50 mile trainer from May.

[Tony C]

The more pigeons you have up with the leaders the earler they'll pull out especialy so with youngsters. So it all boils down to the better their health/condition the better chance you have with them being up with the leaders.

[dwh]

The more pigeons you have up with the leaders the earler they'll pull out especialy so with youngsters. So it all boils down to the better their health/condition the better chance you have with them being up with the leaders.

 

it seems today tht more yb races are won by birds coming out the back they seem to get over the top b4 they break for home

[King Billy.]

 

dont worry about that,  try and get your  birds to  race home to you first,  start at 5 mile then 10 then 15mile   then stay at  20 mile tosses  and get them   home 20-25min all the time  keep your loft clean  and birds healthy feed good corn to your best ability  and handle winning birds  in your club  get the feel of them  and  ask only winning guys  no one else  a question  do as they say  then the next quetion  will fall into place

 

you should always practis wot you preach you have never asked black w/f any questions ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[BLACK W F]

 

you should always practis wot you preach you have never asked black w/f any questions ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

where you  been Tam been missing your wit and knowledge   put these guys onthe right track   ;) ;)

[les]

hi every 1,is it possible to train young bird's to break off from the main drag.i live between 2 feds and have been told by a member in the club i am about to join its hard to do well in the fed cos wer not on the main drag.this will be my 1st year racing,so if it can be done how do you go about it thank's.

NO, it would just be down to the pigeon its self ,nothing you do will make it  do what your asking ,

 

 

[King Billy.]

 

where you  been Tam been missing your wit and knowledge   put these guys onthe right track   ;) ;)

 

young birds its hard to get them to brake but if you have the right motavation and the birds are fit and helthey your in with a shout you have to win the club before you can worry about the fed so if your birds are beatting club members your birds wont be far away but dont forget location motavation and helth always wins races  and up to 150mls location wins moore ;)

[schouwman71]

if you want to win y/bird races and get them to come on line,just train them on line to your first race point,i train my y/birds once there going 40-60 mls 3 times a week,they always come on line and win,dont worry about any drag but sometimes you can be beat by the wind,but has a few have said everythink else has to be correct,feed ,health,and mostly motivation.

 

les

[Roland]

Spen, you are in a good location. Most would say Lincoln is the best spot ALLROUND each week.

As for wind, which will affect everyone one good or bad, you can't combat tha.... only harness your sails a mite.

Was at newish fancier your way last June time He was having his first season. A Mr Potter.

 

[Roland]

The more pigeons you have up with the leaders the earler they'll pull out especialy so with youngsters. So it all boils down to the better their health/condition the better chance you have with them being up with the leaders.

 

Realism. It simple really is a bird maintaining a speed it is comfortable to fly with. As they falter, lag behind, the winner wins it's race.

[Guest frank dooman]

so many fanciers talking about breaking points thats us fanciers thinking we know whats best for the birds again i wonder how many times the drag and wind take them over your breaking point they might never be anywhere near it fit healthy motivated good birds thats the winners nothing else we have all kidded our self on with the training thing yes it can help but no guarentees oh and you nee the wee man on your shoulder as well

[pigeonscout]

 

dont worry about that,  try and get your  birds to  race home to you first,  start at 5 mile then 10 then 15mile   then stay at  20 mile tosses  and get them   home 20-25min all the time  keep your loft clean  and birds healthy feed good corn to your best ability  and handle winning birds  in your club  get the feel of them  and  ask only winning guys  no one else  a question  do as they say  then the next quetion  will fall into place

Very good advice 100%

[pigeonscout]

so many fanciers talking about breaking points thats us fanciers thinking we know whats best for the birds again i wonder how many times the drag and wind take them over your breaking point they might never be anywhere near it fit healthy motivated good birds thats the winners nothing else we have all kidded our self on with the training thing yes it can help but no guarentees oh and you nee the wee man on your shoulder as well

 

Agree with this as a bird infront cannot be dragged and most winning birds are at the front.

[spen]

Spen, you are in a good location. Most would say Lincoln is the best spot ALLROUND each week.

As for wind, which will affect everyone one good or bad, you can't combat tha.... only harness your sails a mite.

Was at newish fancier your way last June time He was having his first season. A Mr Potter.

 

i don't live in lincoln mate and won't be flying in the same fed as the lincoln flyer's.

[Guest pigeon82]

just quoting on pearses comment i also in londonderry lol and i didnt have much problem last year i started training my ybs as soon as they started to fly together they were in the basket and i done training from 2 miles then upto 32miles then i was on the fed lorry training upto 60 odd miles but i had a gud first season taking top yb points so this year i have to try and do something with the old birds be first time racing old birds as well

[spen]

just quoting on pearses comment i also in londonderry lol and i didnt have much problem last year i started training my ybs as soon as they started to fly together they were in the basket and i done training from 2 miles then upto 32miles then i was on the fed lorry training upto 60 odd miles but i had a gud first season taking top yb points so this year i have to try and do something with the old birds be first time racing old birds as well

good luck with the old bird's mate.

 

[Guest pigeon82]

cheers palsame 2 u