spen Posted January 23, 2010 Report Posted January 23, 2010 hi every 1,is it possible to train young bird's to break off from the main drag.i live between 2 feds and have been told by a member in the club i am about to join its hard to do well in the fed cos wer not on the main drag.this will be my 1st year racing,so if it can be done how do you go about it thank's.
Guest bigda Posted January 23, 2010 Report Posted January 23, 2010 where are you from and wich fed are you in spen, start hear first
Guest Posted January 23, 2010 Report Posted January 23, 2010 the last club i was in and the location ,was told by all established fanciers youll never win a race up here lad. i proved them wrong and they are now winning there too. i chose a breaking point , kept it simple , trained well and it worked. (after advice given by an old hand outside the area) . good luck for the future. andy
spen Posted January 23, 2010 Author Report Posted January 23, 2010 i live in gainsborough , lincolnshire,n i know it as the doncaster fed not 100% if thats the correct name for it but been told thats where the main drag heads.
spen Posted January 23, 2010 Author Report Posted January 23, 2010 the last club i was in and the location ,was told by all established fanciers youll never win a race up here lad. i proved them wrong and they are now winning there too. i chose a breaking point , kept it simple , trained well and it worked. (after advice given by an old hand outside the area) . good luck for the future. andy so you just train from the point you want them to break off at then.
Guest bigda Posted January 23, 2010 Report Posted January 23, 2010 i live in gainsborough , lincolnshire,n i know it as the doncaster fed not 100% if thats the correct name for it but been told thats where the main drag heads. dont worry about that, try and get your birds to race home to you first, start at 5 mile then 10 then 15mile then stay at 20 mile tosses and get them home 20-25min all the time keep your loft clean and birds healthy feed good corn to your best ability and handle winning birds in your club get the feel of them and ask only winning guys no one else a question do as they say then the next quetion will fall into place
stoker121 Posted January 23, 2010 Report Posted January 23, 2010 NEW STARTER, BIG DA, IS RIGHT JUST TRAIN YOUR YOUNG BIBDS FROM THE AGE OF 14 WEEKS AS MANY TIMES AS YOU CAN, MONDAY TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY,IN THE MORNING OR EVENING,RIGHT UP UNTIL THE FIRST RACE, FEED YOUR YOUNG BIRDS BY HAND WHEN THEY COME INTO THE LOFT, YOU WILL SEE WHEN THEY HAVE HAD ENOUGH, DO NOT OVER FEED,HOPE THIS HELPS IF YOU WANT MORE DETAILS PLEASE PM JOHN [ STOKER ]
Guest bakes Posted January 23, 2010 Report Posted January 23, 2010 ive got two feds lines of flight over my house 1 warwick fed 2 coventry and district fed im not worried as all my birds have been trained well one thing i would say if you get the chance put them on the training transporter a few tosses with 100's of birds will learn them to break lib them all together all your own birds they wont need to brake put them with 100's of birds they will learn i would worry about nolidge your birds first get them coming back from 5 1o 15 25 miles get them beating you back home everytime then go from there go to the top flyers in your club and top flyer in your fed see what they do take note and try little things but one thing i would say when you got them coming good dont change anythink stick with it best of look raceing hope you do well all the best k.baker
pearse1888 Posted January 24, 2010 Report Posted January 24, 2010 very hard to do .. its like here really living in derry .. when racing in the nipa our birds are always dragged up the right hand side of loch neagh .. especially when its a nw wind nightmare try training from where you want them to break
Guest bigda Posted January 24, 2010 Report Posted January 24, 2010 very hard to do .. its like here really living in derry .. when racing in the nipa our birds are always dragged up the right hand side of loch neagh .. especially when its a nw wind nightmare try training from where you want them to break train them from lough derg then ;D ;D
ALF Posted January 24, 2010 Report Posted January 24, 2010 very hard to do .. its like here really living in derry .. when racing in the nipa our birds are always dragged up the right hand side of loch neagh .. especially when its a nw wind nightmare try training from where you want them to break QUITE HARD IN THE WEST OF SCOTLAND ASWELL PEARCE MATE ;) CHEERS ALAN HAMILTON LANARKSHIRE ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Guest bigda Posted January 24, 2010 Report Posted January 24, 2010 QUITE HARD IN THE WEST OF SCOTLAND ASWELL PEARCE MATE ;) CHEERS ALAN HAMILTON LANARKSHIRE ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D bit like coatbridge also, off the beating track hard to get birds in to with the big fed 8,000 birds but we put up with it
ALF Posted January 24, 2010 Report Posted January 24, 2010 bit like coatbridge also, off the beating track hard to get birds in to with the big fed 8,000 birds but we put up with it YEP....CHEERS ALAN HAMILTON LANARKSHIRE ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Guest bigda Posted January 24, 2010 Report Posted January 24, 2010 YEP....CHEERS ALAN HAMILTON LANARKSHIRE ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :D 8)
BLACK W F Posted January 24, 2010 Report Posted January 24, 2010 yes as long as you start as y/bs and got plenty time
Guest stb- Posted January 24, 2010 Report Posted January 24, 2010 very hard to do .. its like here really living in derry .. when racing in the nipa our birds are always dragged up the right hand side of loch neagh .. especially when its a nw wind nightmare try training from where you want them to break just move to randalstown and you will be sorted dont matter what side they come up ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Guest frank dooman Posted January 24, 2010 Report Posted January 24, 2010 i dont think its possible to train birds to break they will stick with the drag untill it starts to break up i tried for years but what i will say is when a bird is on top form it is more likely to head for home and if its good enough on that day it will be with the leaders which in turn makes it easier to break if your lucky it will be infront and it wont need to break it will be the others that will have to break from it, thats what you are aiming for but every thing needs to be at the top of its game
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted January 24, 2010 Report Posted January 24, 2010 i dont think its possible to train birds to break they will stick with the drag untill it starts to break up i tried for years but what i will say is when a bird is on top form it is more likely to head for home and if its good enough on that day it will be with the leaders which in turn makes it easier to break if your lucky it will be infront and it wont need to break it will be the others that will have to break from it, thats what you are aiming for but every thing needs to be at the top of its game Like Frank says it is hard but if the pigeon has the bloodlines the condition then most importantly at club level the motivation this will help ensure that your pigeon/s will not go with the drag unless the wind is also forcing them.
yorkie Posted January 24, 2010 Report Posted January 24, 2010 the wind direction can be a big factor, one week your birds may have to fly into it, when it blows someone else's home, next week it may be vice-versa. Remember also if a good fancier has an ideal drop so that his birds can fly unhindered into his loft, he will take 2 minutes off someone who's birds have to fly between houses,trees and other obstacles in a small back yard set up, to win in sprints thats all they need. So yes a good position can be a big advantage but only on certain days when the wind is in your favour
Guest Posted January 24, 2010 Report Posted January 24, 2010 so you just train from the point you want them to break off at then. that was my starting point for change , and singled up . then read all the above answers , no bad advice given , understand and think what is relevant to you , write a plan and stick to it. good luck. andy.
chichichi Posted January 24, 2010 Report Posted January 24, 2010 Drag beats wind everytime,, but you can beat drag,, we do it most weeks,, we joined a club and were told we would never win as we live too far north ,, this club races south and the birds come from the south.. we have got the birds to come from the north and win,, It can be done but takes a lot of homework and hard work to do it.. we train our birds north east for racing south east,, Our birds have to break 40 miles from home,, and they do.. :) train them only on this line,, ant
tom corrie Posted January 24, 2010 Report Posted January 24, 2010 I allways thought the winners boke at the Race point
dwh Posted January 24, 2010 Report Posted January 24, 2010 I allways thought the winners boke at the Race point they break at race point n batches then break again nearer home jmo
adam owen Posted January 24, 2010 Report Posted January 24, 2010 just train to 12 or 15 miles and after a few tosses start letting them go in fours then threes then twos then single ups this is the breaking point and by single ups double ups they av to think for them selfs and builds cofidance into them works for me
Guest mick bowler Posted January 24, 2010 Report Posted January 24, 2010 Can be done, but does not solve everything! You heighten the chances of winning but wind still plays a major part along with wether the birds have it in them to win, being health, motivated or intelligence wise! I don't think it applys as much with old birds, but certainly with young birds.
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