Ivermectin

[Roland]

Of course, untill then I will advocate that I use it for the Ticks / lice or whatever it stills gets rid of, and then there will be no disappointment either way later on if it does,or doesn't have any other beneficial effects in any other way.

[jimmy white]

The only difference between injectable Ivermectin and pour-on Ivermectin is the concentration of the drug: injectable is 1% (stronger) and pour-on is 1/2% (weaker). I continue to find it difficult to believe that the weaker solution is fatal to hawks and the stronger solution is not. For what it is worth.

 

 

with due respect to larry , i would seem to have been wrong in my post about ivermectin , poisoning hawks ,,,but i did do as i said in my post , i put the stronger solution of invermectin  on a pigeon , which a hawk kept comming back and eating, each time this hawk came back it looked weaker and weaker until it was picked up dead by a neighbour , i was of the understanding that the invermectin [actually equelan , paste ? ]  had poisoned this hawk  but in looking at your posts, and the  internet, it does seem that invermectin will not kill hawks, im sure you will understand my findings and my thinking when this happened to me,, thinking that the ivermectin on this pigeon  killed this hawk. since looking at your posts and the internet i  was most surprised to see that hawks get many similar illnesses  as pigeons i,e cocci, canker [frounce] aspergiliosis and many others ,, the pigeon i used was in fact was  an ailing pigeon [a very ill yb] off course this sounds bad , but being attacked by this hawk on many occasions ,  i had, had  obviosly quite enough,, could this ailment of the pigeon ,rather than the ivermectin have killed this hawk this quick [it was handed in on the third day], i have, as i said studied your posts and studied the internet , and through both, have found no evidence of ivermectin poisoning a hawk ,,, but the fact remains this was heavily pasted invermectin ,ailing pigeon ,  eaten by a hawk [a sparrow hawk] was dead on the third day, and didnt look right on the second day!,,, as i havent seen any proof of this treatment poisoning hawks ,, could this have been the pigeon ailment that killed the hawk?,, and if so , what ailment in a pigeon would kill a hawk this quick ? and also if i may ask,  this this happened about 10 years ago [would this be the same product of the  "to-day" of ivermectin]  also may i also say how i enjoy your posts and find the ongoing debates by our interested parties on " pigeon basics"  very interesting indeed ,, so i thank you for that

[Larry Lucas]

 

with due respect to larry , i would seem to have been wrong in my post about ivermectin , poisoning hawks ,,,but i did do as i said in my post , i put the stronger solution of invermectin  on a pigeon , which a hawk kept comming back and eating, each time this hawk came back it looked weaker and weaker until it was picked up dead by a neighbour , i was of the understanding that the invermectin [actually equelan , paste ? ]  had poisoned this hawk  but in looking at your posts, and the  internet, it does seem that invermectin will not kill hawks, im sure you will understand my findings and my thinking when this happened to me,, thinking that the ivermectin on this pigeon  killed this hawk. since looking at your posts and the internet i  was most surprised to see that hawks get many similar illnesses  as pigeons i,e cocci, canker [frounce] aspergiliosis and many others ,, the pigeon i used was in fact was  an ailing pigeon [a very ill yb] off course this sounds bad , but being attacked by this hawk on many occasions ,  i had, had  obviosly quite enough,, could this ailment of the pigeon ,rather than the ivermectin have killed this hawk this quick [it was handed in on the third day], i have, as i said studied your posts and studied the internet , and through both, have found no evidence of ivermectin poisoning a hawk ,,, but the fact remains this was heavily pasted invermectin ,ailing pigeon ,  eaten by a hawk [a sparrow hawk] was dead on the third day, and didnt look right on the second day!,,, as i havent seen any proof of this treatment poisoning hawks ,, could this have been the pigeon ailment that killed the hawk?,, and if so , what ailment in a pigeon would kill a hawk this quick ? and also if i may ask,  this this happened about 10 years ago [would this be the same product of the  "to-day" of ivermectin]  also may i also say how i enjoy your posts and find the ongoing debates by our interested parties on " pigeon basics"  very interesting indeed ,, so i thank you for that

 

Jimmy, if I were to venture a guess I would think the sick pigeon had canker, which was transmitted to the hawk as frounce -- and it is deadly to them. Staking out a pigeon sick with canker is a good way to eliminate devils with wings. Not quite as effective as a twelve-gauge shotgun, but it still works. :X

[just ask me]

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[jimmy white]

 

Jimmy, if I were to venture a guess I would think the sick pigeon had canker, which was transmitted to the hawk as frounce -- and it is deadly to them. Staking out a pigeon sick with canker is a good way to eliminate devils with wings. Not quite as effective as a twelve-gauge shotgun, but it still works. :X

 

think you could well be right larry,,,,,,about he frounce anyway ;D ;D ;D we would get shot here ;) ;D if we used a tweve-bore shotgun,,, and apart from that ;D knowing me,,,,,,i would miss ;D

[cowman]

ive always used iver mec on my birds with no problems at all as we have it to hand for the cattle its always avalible to use . as for the dog never tried it on my collie just give him a spray with the sheep dip when spraying the sheep .

[Guest IB]

I have mentioned trichomonads before, causing frounce in hawks, reports of death occuring in 7 days in some cases.

 

Reckon it was something the rock dove developed way back, to protect it from predators, and perhaps one of the reasons hawks don't seem to take feral pigeons (streeters), tho the main reason I believe is the far superior quality of meat ( & developed taste for it) in racing pigeons.

[Guest IB]

Jimmy, that's an interesting one on Sparrowhawk behaviour, I did not know they would scavenge on dead meat like buzzards and crows.

 

Think we noted before that avian predators are quite susceptible to diseases present in their prey? Reports of hawks picking up bird flu for example, were put down to them catching it from AI-infected dead or dying birds that they ate.