IT`S HERE AT LAST!!

[Guest G.Drysdale + son]

very , articulate for a 14year old , is it a young head on young shoulder's or an old head on old shoulder's

 

Was thinking the same  ??)

 

 

[Dave barrie]

why are we reading these old posts, up north we have our own wayof dealing with these problems, like les says, deal with it ....

[Fair Play]

A "plant" springs to mind !!!!!

[Guest IB]

My opinion - doesn't hurt to listen to advice from people who know these birds better than the average fancier, me included. Might learn things to our advantage. For example, the recent hawk article in the BHW (first to acknowledge, many false claims in it) did offer some good advice, for example not to breed youngsters during Sparrowhawk breeding season, (Jan Feb Mar) and not to race pigeons during the peregrine breeding season (May). Threads on this forum of Sparrowhawk attacks on youngsters, and of recent experiences of Scottish Feds libs being attacked by peregrines shows that these bits at least to be good advice for us.

 

Personally I feel pigeon people are focussed too much on the hawk and too little on the pigeon. Pigeons aren't stupid, they learn very quickly. Most if not all of them must already know through instinct how to avoid being taken by winged predators.  For me the long-term solution lies with us and the pigeons, not the hawks, nor any mass cull of them. Slightest suggestion that that was our only answer and Joe Public would be on us like a ton of bricks. Lofts that are being targetted are a special case, and need different action. No doubt that lethal control is justifiable in those special circumstances. We don't keep pigeons to feed hawks.

[kev01293]

i cant get on to the website it just keeps coming up as error   is anyone else having trouble?     kev

[kyle13]

Was thinking the same  ??)

 

 

well i read a lot,

 

look as much as i love pigeons i do volunteer at a falconry center, really i don't see why we should see falcons killed by fanatic fanciers( no offense but there are some who carry guns and shoot falcons on site). just trust me, go to a falconry center, look at the birds not as predators, but as birds and instead of focusing on their ferocity, look at how they fly, yes the numbers are out of control, but falconers lose their birds to wild falcons as well. they spend thousands on training/housing/etc. on their birds and have them struck down, they don't go mad,they have to live with it cos they understand, back to pigeons.

 

this will sound mean, but re-read some of your posts and this will come easy. a falcon only goes after weak/old birds, basically its natures form of quality control. and also the falcons probably have families to feed, if we hunted for food after we have babies we would need to hunt harder.  

 

finally, i'm not trying to make a name for myself, but its in desperate times like this where both sides have trouble, visit this website: http://www.falconcrimes.co.uk/ , falconers have been conned by their authorities and have had their bird taken for no reason. its time we put down our guns and team up, maybe we can solve each others problems, just a 14 year olds thoughts,

 

[kev01293]

u are spot on blaz  i couldnt have put it better myself