budgie Posted November 3, 2009 Report Posted November 3, 2009 For those who like a bargain there is a (99) BRED Jan Aarden cock on another site with a list price of £2250 being sold for £500.00 Who in their right mind would purchase such pigeons and for what reason.In a Old Folks Home no more children are born, as nature makes sure that the Auld Bull is taken out of the herd.Good pigeons are bred from from yearlings 2,3,year-olds and dont be kidded otherwise.How many Auld Doos in yer ain Dookit are still breeding winners after this age. Keep your money in your pocket and stick to Young Stock.???
Guest frank dooman Posted November 3, 2009 Report Posted November 3, 2009 got to dissagree with you there i have a 1998 cock still breeding the goods in nearly every nest
blaz Posted November 3, 2009 Report Posted November 3, 2009 old pairs still bred good birds. not all of them wee tip put eggs from old pair under younger birds
pjc Posted November 3, 2009 Report Posted November 3, 2009 1 cock here bred a winner again this year at 13!
paddymac Posted November 3, 2009 Report Posted November 3, 2009 Aardens are known to breed well into their later years. Still worth the risk without viagra lol
holmsidelofts Posted November 3, 2009 Report Posted November 3, 2009 Hi there. I have a 1993 cock who still fills his eggs. and hes 16 years old. jas
blaz Posted November 3, 2009 Report Posted November 3, 2009 i am after a lone of my mates 12 year old fountainhead jancen cock next year to put to a very good hen hope i get him and i hope he still fills the eggs. stock birds dont get to be old unless they are producing the goods.
pjc Posted November 3, 2009 Report Posted November 3, 2009 I think if anybody were looking to purchase stock that old then they need to know they are still fertile and not but from a stud who may just be trying to get some of there money back!
bibendium Posted November 3, 2009 Report Posted November 3, 2009 think the message here is who would risk £500 on an older bird producing.
Guest frank dooman Posted November 3, 2009 Report Posted November 3, 2009 think the message here is who would risk £500 on an older bird producing. not me, but that doesnt mean that old birds cant breed good y/birds
kraftykev Posted November 3, 2009 Report Posted November 3, 2009 I have a 14 year old hen still going strong and breeding stunning youngesters
showman Posted November 3, 2009 Report Posted November 3, 2009 Take a look at his pedigree.....pretty awesome !! And agree with paddymac...Jan Aardens will breed well into their twilight years. Best I ever did was years ago, I purchased quite a few pairs of direct Dordins all about 10 / 11 years old...no failures..all bred..and bred 1st prize winners too...I think the best was 12th Open in the NIPA.
Guest chrisss Posted November 3, 2009 Report Posted November 3, 2009 i think the main problem would be, that in its old loft it could bang away like an armed policeman,but move it somewhere strange and then what?,for that sort of money who would take a chance?
Guest frank dooman Posted November 3, 2009 Report Posted November 3, 2009 i think the main problem would be, that in its old loft it could bang away like an armed policeman,but move it somewhere strange and then what?,for that sort of money who would take a chance? good point have seen that before
Guest peter.j Posted November 3, 2009 Report Posted November 3, 2009 For those who like a bargain there is a (99) BRED Jan Aarden cock on another site with a list price of £2250 being sold for £500.00 Who in their right mind would purchase such pigeons and for what reason.In a Old Folks Home no more children are born, as nature makes sure that the Auld Bull is taken out of the herd.Good pigeons are bred from from yearlings 2,3,year-olds and dont be kidded otherwise.How many Auld Doos in yer ain Dookit are still breeding winners after this age. Keep your money in your pocket and stick to Young Stock.??? sounded like a qoute from the bhw become a champion stay a champion article
bibendium Posted November 3, 2009 Report Posted November 3, 2009 I agree older birds can and do produce some good winners etc , but as stated your taking a real punt paying that kind of money .
budgie Posted November 3, 2009 Author Report Posted November 3, 2009 Hi there. I have a 1993 cock who still fills his eggs. and hes 16 years old. jas Jas i am not talking about filling eggs i am reffering to how many winners they have bred .How many has this Old Cock Bred in the Last 16 years.
alec guinness Posted November 3, 2009 Report Posted November 3, 2009 For those who like a bargain there is a (99) BRED Jan Aarden cock on another site with a list price of £2250 being sold for £500.00 Who in their right mind would purchase such pigeons and for what reason.In a Old Folks Home no more children are born, as nature makes sure that the Auld Bull is taken out of the herd.Good pigeons are bred from from yearlings 2,3,year-olds and dont be kidded otherwise.How many Auld Doos in yer ain Dookit are still breeding winners after this age. Keep your money in your pocket and stick to Young Stock.??? agree with your sentiments with regards shelling out money for an aged stock bird,on the other hand our 2 yr old 2009 timer from alencon 112th open was bred from a cock reared in 1994 he has previously sired 2 x snfc region winners and is g/sire of another snfc region winner,also i have a 1997 cock who has bred and is still breeding snfc and fed open prize winners,sometimes budgie you can get GOLD FROM OLD. ;) :)
showman Posted November 3, 2009 Report Posted November 3, 2009 agree with your sentiments with regards shelling out money for an aged stock bird,on the other hand our 2 yr old 2009 timer from alencon 112th open was bred from a cock reared in 1994 he has previously sired 2 x snfc region winners and is g/sire of another snfc region winner,also i have a 1997 cock who has bred and is still breeding snfc and fed open prize winners,sometimes budgie you can get GOLD FROM OLD. ;) :) Gold from Old.....love it !
paddymac Posted November 3, 2009 Report Posted November 3, 2009 probably the same as any other top breeding ratio, maybe 1 out of every 10
budgie Posted November 3, 2009 Author Report Posted November 3, 2009 agree with your sentiments with regards shelling out money for an aged stock bird,on the other hand our 2 yr old 2009 timer from alencon 112th open was bred from a cock reared in 1994 he has previously sired 2 x snfc region winners and is g/sire of another snfc region winner,also i have a 1997 cock who has bred and is still breeding snfc and fed open prize winners,sometimes budgie you can get GOLD FROM OLD. ;) :) Alec what age was the Hen he was up with.He must be a right yin and i bet you would not have purchased him at around 11 years of age and for the sums they are quoting.
paddymac Posted November 3, 2009 Report Posted November 3, 2009 Take a look at his pedigree.....pretty awesome !! And agree with paddymac...Jan Aardens will breed well into their twilight years. Best I ever did was years ago, I purchased quite a few pairs of direct Dordins all about 10 / 11 years old...no failures..all bred..and bred 1st prize winners too...I think the best was 12th Open in the NIPA. The biggest organisation within the uk 20,000 + at liberations
showman Posted November 3, 2009 Report Posted November 3, 2009 [/color] The biggest organisation within the uk 20,000 + at liberations If memory serves Paddymac because it was a YB race...it was around the 30,000 mark (that wasn't yesterday )
budgie Posted November 3, 2009 Author Report Posted November 3, 2009 probably the same as any other top breeding ratio, maybe 1 out of every 10 Paddy Who do you know out their who is selling a pre-potent pair.Top breding pairs are not for sale and if they are they are passed it.
paddymac Posted November 3, 2009 Report Posted November 3, 2009 Makes it all the more important the fact that it was a yb breaking from that amount of pigeons to make its way home. Absolute super yb and a great result.
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