let out

[chris h]

i let out my two unrung young birds today at 330pm they flew about for an hour,now there is no sign of them.will they have gone down for the night and come back in the morning  

[Guest]

is this the 1st time youve let them out

[chris h]

is this the 1st time youve let them out

 

yeah

[Guest]

they might be around the area but i wouldnt be too hopeful of getting them both back

as they wont know how to get back into the loft

pity you couldnt of had them out earlier before they could fly

so they could learn how to go through the trap

 

if you want ive a pair in the nest off a son of a section winner in SNFC

be ready in 7 to 10 days

there yours if you want them

 

dave

 

[chris h]

they might be around the area but i wouldnt be too hopeful of getting them both back

as they wont know how to get back into the loft

pity you couldnt of had them out earlier before they could fly

so they could learn how to go through the trap

 

if you want ive a pair in the nest off a son of a section winner in SNFC

be ready in 7 to 10 days

there yours if you want them

 

dave

 

o yes   :)

 

[ally mac]

Sounds like they were strong flyers Chris, like Dave says you could maybe try and get them out when they are younger and not so strong on the wing.

Have you other homed birds you could put out tomorrow?

[Guest]

ps- the hen is jim biss a great grandaughter of natrix

[chris h]

Do you let your young bird out before they can fly.how do they get through the trap if they cant fly ? :-/

[chris h]

Sounds like they were strong flyers Chris, like Dave says you could maybe try and get them out when they are younger and not so strong on the wing.

Have you other homed birds you could put out tomorrow?

 

yeah they were out with a 14 year old cock hes back,awell another learning curve.

[the pigeon_milker]

look out for them in the morning but we lost 5 in one go last year coz young birds are a bit daft saying that some of the others went out for two days then come back and they are good now good luck with then any how

 

[ally mac]

Mine are put in a cage on the loft roof for a few days to get their bearings and I always put them back in the loft through the trap., when the can fly in the loft to their perches ok I let them out on the ground in front of the loft with the aim to get them back into the trap themselves. After that I am quite happy to let them have a bit more freedom. Has worked for me anyway.

 

Al.

[Guest]

ive a board under the sputnik trap it sticks out about 2ft  open the front and top

and let them wander in and out they soon jump up onto the landing board and drop in the trap

call them in with the feed tin

next they usualy flutter about the garden from loft to loft

before they take to the air

 

dave

[chris h]

this is them

[Peckedhen]

They're bonny birds. What a shame Chris. :( Tomorrow, get any birds that you have already trained to home, out and flying in the hope they bring your YBs in.

 

You've got a sputnik right?  What I do is put the babies in the sputnik well before they can fly, even before they are weaned - they get a good look around for a few days. Then, again before they are flying, I put one at a time out on the landing board. They hate being out on their own and soon find how to drop back into the sputnik.  After they have done this three times I reckon they know how to trap so I put them all out together on the landing board but close the sputnik so that they can't get back in.  Remember, these birds are still not flying. The birds explore the sputnik and, as they get more able and braver they hop up onto the loft roof and, over the next few days begin to take little flights around the loft.  All this takes time and I don't leave the birds alone because they are vulnerable to predators.  At the same time I am also training them to the feed can...I open the sputnik and rattle the tin to bring them in.

 

  This is only my way of doing it - there seems to be lots of ways and you have to find one that suits you.

 

Young birds learning where they live.

[chris h]

this is my trap they flew out and in a few times before they flew around and didnt come home  

[Peckedhen]

I think that they were a little bit too old when you let them out. When they are strong on the wing, they fly too far and then can't find their way home.  Fingers crossed they return tomorrow.

[chris h]

one is back home  

[Guest]

nice one

if you get the other today put them both out tomorow again

any sign of it doin fly byes

[chris h]

nice one

if you get the other today put them both out tomorow again

any sign of it doin fly byes

 

no sign of it mate  

[THE FIFER]

it is possible they will find their way back, but youngsters must be able to see their suroundings before they are getting ready to fly,

[Guest]

Chris pigeons never get lost they just go missing. I've had ybs out first time missing for upto a week. Just makesure you treat them with something as you never know where they been.

 

Also once had some birds from Bailey Bros, they were bit strong but kept them in 2 days let them out, they just came on to the trap and went!! Within 3 or 4 days they all worked in, never underestimate the brain of a pigeon, its usually bad luck that looses first timers like hitting a training bunch, but if they saty the local area they usually return.

[Guest IB]

Seems to be two stages to youngsters homing: I've noticed with mine which are open door rather than sputnic / landing board, that those that take off without scouting the immediate area first (hopping from roof to roof) are able to find their way back to within 100 feet of where they live, but don't seem to be able to tell the actual building they live in from the others around it? Also if they aren't trained to go through the door they can't find the way in?

 

So I reckon they know in general terms where they live from sometime in the nest, but need to see a bit of the outside too before they are able to say 'that's my loft'. Also if one or two do go adrift, I try to keep old birds out and about, so that it's 'I live around here - I know those birds, that's my loft' kind of thing.

 

I take a bit of time over inside & outside training, and mine are always strong on the wing before they go out. I think they have to be to give them a fair chance of survival out there now.

 

[Guest]

Has anyone ever had a good pair of breeders where the YBs they produce will quite often dissappear off the loft but if you hold them they turn into very good racers??

[Peckedhen]

one is back home  

 

Brilliant. One down, one to go.

 

 

[Roland]

You know, a fancier from Oxford brought home a few squeakers from Sweden. They'd of course never flew out, wes about the 28 day mark ... Kept as Stock of cause.

Any way 2 years down the line, one escaped.... ad went back to Sweden and the loft it was born in of course.  Was going to have back.... but cost a fair bit so ...

Any way 3 weeks later it's flew home from Sweden and back in the Oxford loft. Next season it won a few aces. Go figure :-/