when 2 stop young cocks

[addidas]

it's my 1st season racing and would like some advice.

 

I have a young cock who in the last 2 weeks has a 1st club 2nd fed and 3rd club 5th fed. we have had 4 races and i am wanting to give the cock 1 more race and then stop him for nxt year. his nestmate is a hen and she has a 3rd club at the min. i am flying my youngbirds natural as i wanted to have a good team for next season. i have only breed 35 youngbirds and have only lost 1 racing. most are going raggy and have had 2 be stopped but this pair are still tight as the cock has been sitting. should i stop him or keep him going.

[REDCHEQHEN]

How many flights has he got to go?

[addidas]

he has only cast 1 flight. think he will be casting his 2nd flight soon

[REDCHEQHEN]

The only reason there would be to stop the cock is yourself

 

If you are in the UNC - I would probably personally send to Melton Mowbray - but probably not any further

[addidas]

fly in the west durham amal.

[No 1]

Only stop them when they slow down, you don't stop form pigeon's.

[REDCHEQHEN]

Out of curiosity (and me with darkie youngsters) and this one only dropped one flight - when was he bred?

[Guest Owen]

I agree with No1. I would not stop a form bird that is healthy and fit. And of course he needs to be in good feather condition. What a bird to have as part of a widowhood team for next year! I think you may have struck gold there.

[addidas]

hope so owen. he was bred in january. we have worked them hard. he paired up early and we let him rear 1 youngen which has now been taken away but he has got his hen back down straight away. he is paired 2 a tumbler. pity. i would have set somthing else away and floated the eggs if he were paired to a young hen. lol. he was sitting 2 eggs on friday and we basketed on sat for a sunday race. he was keen as mustard to his eggs.

[REDCHEQHEN]

Good Luck whatever you decide

I've always found my best yearling cocks were stopped at 160 miles as youngsters

[jimmy white]

Good Luck whatever you decide

I've always found my best yearling cocks were stopped at 160 miles as youngsters

 

i would tend to agree with this post , even shorter than 160 miles ,,as long as they have been well trained,, i have found that stopping cocks when they have, or   are  comming  well, is the time to stop them,,[its hard to do this sometimes  lol] not when they are worn out, and then  have   to  have this second moult ,in my opinion , only drains them   , far better stopping  fresh good-comming cocks  slightly earlier, then letting them have a good peacefull full moult , this makes for better , fresher old birds ,, only my opinion   

[PIGEON_MAN]

Personally have never liked stopping youngsters at all unless they are very bad in the moult but with darkness you dont have that anyway,again have never had the best youngsters turn out to be the best old birds would sooner look to the ones that are coming  steady week after week they are the ones that seem to make the best oldbirds,for me any way.

[Guest ROCKYandRAMBO]

i agree with you nick but as it is the lads first season racing and he hasnt got a old bird team i would stop him now . he proved him self let him mature and bring him out as a old bird instead of trying to win silly young birds racers . if the lad had a old bird team i would say yes keep him going but with no old birds you would be gutted to lose him chaseing young bird racers . just my thoughts any way

[Guest triballofts]

i agree with you nick but as it is the lads first season racing and he hasnt got a old bird team i would stop him now . he proved him self let him mature and bring him out as a old bird instead of trying to win silly young birds racers . if the lad had a old bird team i would say yes keep him going but with no old birds you would be gutted to lose him chaseing young bird racers . just my thoughts any way

 

totaly agree there mate i would also stop him he is only a youngbird once and could be with you for a few years as an old bird why risk looseing him now think of the futher my best racers only had 2 youngbird races and went on to win many prizes over the next 4-5 years

[addidas]

this pigeon was last the 1st week and then middle order 2nd week. then he has just flown fantastic. his breeding on his mother's side is really good. his mother is a direct daughter of john halls golden couple. sire and dam to his sprint champion. and his sire's side is really good 2. a full sister to the sire has breed 7 individual fed winners. the sire has never really been tried as a breeder but has several wins himself and a multitude of turns. I think the sire had only ever had a couple of youngbirds taken from him and they had turns aswell.  

[JADE]

only you can decide. as you can see opinions vary. yes he is only a young bird for one season but he could get killed by a bop at the first race next year. i find the good ones always come home if they avoid accidents

[Guest mick bowler]

Personally i would stop it, as i have found when a YB on form then fine but when it goes off form you may well end up losing it, "going over" my dad called it, just that one race too many, and of course its not just off form birds that fall foul to hawks wires etc.

 

Especially as you team building too.