best sootjen youngsters

[Guest gladdo]

who in all your views has the best sootjen youngsters and have the results to back them up ??????? cheers pm me if you like ,,,,, cheers gladdo

[mac1]

paul stobbs iveston county durham

[jimmy_bulger]

i would go along with that

[gangster]

john baker warrington...............merv stone  w/mids

[ChrisMaidment08]

mike val crooks staithes cumbria and for florengles

[Roland]

Maybe, but Dakin and Sheader must take all tye beating... Youngster?! I presume he means Raced youngsters...

But surely the proof of good youngsters are what one needs them to asquire too as 2 year olds upwards.

So the best youngsters have 2  more years or so to be prove their worth.

And also one must take into the equations that MANY top flyers don't race y/b's, and also some get shot of the winners swearing they never make it as old birds... though there are many exceptions to this rule... or is there?

[ChrisMaidment08]

shreader bought back the combine winners from mvcrooks but mike still has the birds there just look at his record

[Guest j.bamling]

shreader bought back the combine winners from mvcrooks but mike still has the birds there just look at his record

 

just look at his loft position paper bags can top the combine

From his spot !! I know l mackey good flyer bought 43 ybs from

Frank sheader 3 were good birds 40 were rubbish and I know

Quite a few the same !!! At the same time the good ones are

Really good !!

[ChrisMaidment08]

i take it you mean paper can win from mikes spot but then there are others in mikes spot do they win unc 23000plus birds as well as to shreader he may have bought birds but not the man

[ChrisMaidment08]

and without being rude to you i hear that comment about every big successful flyer yet not one when selling birds mention were they live do they chris gordon how many per race darlington ioo a time

[Guest j.bamling]

yes cause they do-  J cole ,Byron & clennon

But staithes hs is not that strong

Last year that club topped the ec fed

6 times but only twice by mr crooks

[Guest j.bamling]

99.9% would swap there loft location to mike crooks and

You can ask anyone in the unc

They can see 5-6 batchs of up north birds go over then

Get a bird and top the combine with it and that's a

Fact !!!

[ChrisMaidment08]

yes cause they do-  J cole ,Byron & clennon

But staithes hs is not that strong

Last year that club topped the ec fed

6 times but only twice by mr crooks

i agree but in club how many wins how maney unc has he won??? against vast numbers most would be over moon to win fed twice a year

 

[ChrisMaidment08]

99.9% would swap there loft location to mike crooks and

You can ask anyone in the unc

They can see 5-6 batchs of up north birds go over then

Get a bird and top the combine with it and that's a

Fact !!!

 

well as you say then but the same goes here all welsh top flyers are at advantage here as all birds go over them then split but even then they have to get one in first and out of23000 they must live at race point

[Guest j.bamling]

I would agree topping the fed twice is great

All I am saying he is in a great spot heshould top it more from his spot

But what's best good fed winning birds into a bad spot or

Good winning birds into a good one for me I always look

For the first one !!

[ChrisMaidment08]

again i have to agree so im getting bored ;D ;D ;D but realisticly does mike sell birds that often when you look at birds for sale yet i would be happy to have his birds again others claim fame but then were do they live and they are selling week in week out

[Roland]

I believe that j.bamling spits out the realistic truth there when say ... 'he is in a great spot heshould top it more from his spot But what's best good fed winning birds into a bad spot or

Good winning birds into a good one for me I always look For the first one !!

That is, and must surely be the critieria of any one buying in birds.

Learnt yonks ago, with regards of say 'Open races' - seldom took note lol - 'It is better buying a bag of corn, or a toss or two that try and beat a Location'. As true now as it has ever been, and is one of the utmost proven part of racing!

[Guest j.bamling]

Really this is not the place for this discussion as we are spoiling

Someones thread

The East Cleavland fed is not the best place in the

Unc to buy birds from that's just my opinion

But that's not to say all of the lads from there have

Bad birds as they don't a lot have very good birds

It's just the east Cleveland fed has a 80% chance if you

Fly there to top the combine and that's calculated from

Years and years that's how good of a spot it is

This years the first time in about 40-50 years that they

Have not topped the combine !!

[ChrisMaidment08]

agree with thread comment pity sellers on here dont say what advantage they gain from were they are liveing

[Guest j.bamling]

gladdo I would say the best soontjens Paul stobbs or ray forbes

[stephen steyert]

1980 was the last time EC federation went without a gold medal !

 

Really this is not the place for this discussion as we are spoiling

Someones thread

The East Cleavland fed is not the best place in the

Unc to buy birds from that's just my opinion

But that's not to say all of the lads from there have

Bad birds as they don't a lot have very good birds

It's just the east Cleveland fed has a 80% chance if you

Fly there to top the combine and that's calculated from

Years and years that's how good of a spot it is

This years the first time in about 40-50 years that they

Have not topped the combine !!

 

 

[Guest j.bamling]

yes then 1968 before that !! Very good going

[Guest gladdo]

ok thanks j bambling very much and others ...ive come to the end and ive finalised id love the details of PAUL STOBBS ... if anyone has dealt with him recently send us a pm please .... altern if you have number for him could you also pm it please ...much appreciated for the great responce ... cheers all...michael

[oscar_]

Denis Sapin ,look at the results   all bred roud four birds .

[Guest j.bamling]

Mac1 will tell you paul stobbs details