A family

[Roland]

Read once a good article that stated that all strains, families etc. regardless of what distance one wishes to focus on, should only be cultivated by used proven distance birds.

Many reasons for this make perfect sence too.

[OLDYELLOW]

best way to create an all round family Roland

[DeDarren]

I remember reading that pigeons of the Bricoux family were used as foundation stock by the late Albert Marcelis when founding his family of National Ace sprint winners.

[OLDYELLOW]

the hidden pair were Bricoux  Dedarren  

[Guest]

I remember reading that pigeons of the Bricoux family were used as foundation stock by the late Albert Marcelis when founding his family of National Ace sprint winners.

 

That is right, he tells you that on a video. The base of the Marcelis are Bricoux, Janssen, Van Loon and Houben

[OLDYELLOW]

Albert Marselles spent 5 days in prison during the war for flying them out  

[DeDarren]

And in parallel, I think I read in the Janssen book that although the men from the Arendonk never played on the middle or long distances, other fanciers were winning out to 600 miles at National level with pure Janssen pigeons. It is indeed a funny old game!  

[Beanz]

The Marcellis birds had Hoorabin not Houbens as did the Van Reets.

 

 

                                                         Paul

[OLDYELLOW]

they had Houben in pedigrees i used to have

[Guest]

they had Houben in pedigrees i used to have

 

And in the ones that I have got

[Beanz]

they may have later but they were founded on the Hoorabin's as were the Van Reets originally according to the Video's, I have the first 8 of the Around Antwerp videos including Marcellis and Van Reet na dwhen they mentioned this family I originally thought they said Houben but in fact they didn't it was Hoorabin and I have watched them many times not saying they did not bring Houbens in later but the familys were founded on the Hoorabin's, I had never heard of these so that was why I originally thought they said Houben but I have heard of it a few times since apparently it was a very old breed.

 

 

                                        Paul

[Guest]

they may have later but they were founded on the Hoorabin's as were the Van Reets originally according to the Video's, I have the first 8 of the Around Antwerp videos including Marcellis and Van Reet na dwhen they mentioned this family I originally thought they said Houben but in fact they didn't it was Hoorabin and I have watched them many times not saying they did not bring Houbens in later but the familys were founded on the Hoorabin's, I had never heard of these so that was why I originally thought they said Houben but I have heard of it a few times since apparently it was a very old breed.

 

 

                                        Paul

 

I will stand corrected

[DeDarren]

With regard to Van Reet, I recall Staf on the Dean Pallatt release citing a 'vos' pigeon from 'Hermans' of Luithagen, the voucher pigeon he won from his corn suppliers, in addition to pigeons from his grandfather's old family as being at the base of his family, but nothing of Hoorabins. That's not to say he never said it of course!   Just what I remember from viewing both Dean Pallatt's video and Around Antwerp's Van Reet release. Does anybody have any further information on Hoorabins?  

[Guest]

Does anybody have any further information on Hoorabins?  

 

I am waiting for a book to arrive called "The History of thr Belgian Strains" I will look it up in there and let you know

[ChrisMaidment08]

hoorabins were introduced into this country in the 40s by the goverment to stop peaple leaving rubbish in streets todate they remain as a reminder to peaple to keeep this country clean

[Guest]

hoorabins were introduced into this country in the 40s by the goverment to stop peaple leaving rubbish in streets todate they remain as a reminder to peaple to keeep this country clean

 

That's Garbage  

[Wiley]

they may have later but they were founded on the Hoorabin's as were the Van Reets originally according to the Video's, I have the first 8 of the Around Antwerp videos including Marcellis and Van Reet na dwhen they mentioned this family I originally thought they said Houben but in fact they didn't it was Hoorabin and I have watched them many times not saying they did not bring Houbens in later but the familys were founded on the Hoorabin's, I had never heard of these so that was why I originally thought they said Houben but I have heard of it a few times since apparently it was a very old breed.

 

 

                                        Paul

 

i had directs of Albert here, son of the Wringer, daughter of geeloger, son of sproetkop gust ect. The spelling was exactly the same as Houbens, maybe it was the pronounciation that could have been different. The grandparents of the wringer on the fathers side were both houbens. but like i said maybe was a pronounciation thing, maybe  Derek pedley who was good friends with albert could suggest more. The marcellis also contained a strain called V.D Flaes

[Beanz]

Will watch the video's again tomorrow to check and then post on here.

 

 

                                                                   Paul

[Wiley]

Will watch the video's again tomorrow to check and then post on here.

 

 

                                                                   Paul

 

I have the pedigrees to hand Paul, and it is spelt as Houbens, but like i said could be a pronounciation situation  :-/

[just ask me]

think he may be talking about when the familly was started the real base pigeons of the familly i have heard of these birds before but no info on these

[Beanz]

Wiley what year do the pedigree's go back to as I mean as Just Ask Me says the origins of the strains, not had time to watch them yet but I remember Dave Allen saying that they were a distance strain and he commented on the fact that it was strange that the two sprint strains originated from a distance strain.

 

 

                                                             Paul