NFC Young Bird race

[Guest]

I keep hearing rumours that the NFC Young Bird race will be from the Isle of Wight?

[ribble]

ive been told its SENNEN COVE.

[PIGEON_MAN]

IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE SENNEN COVE BUT THERE IS A COMMITTE MEETING TONIGHT AND THE YOUNG BIRD RACE IS ON THE AGENDA BUT I CANT SEE THAT WE WOULD BE GOING TO THE ISLE OF WHITE BUT THEN AGAIN ANYWHERE WOULD NOT SURPRISE ME,GUESS WE WILL KNOW FOR DEFFINATE TOMMORROW.

[ribble]

CHALE it is lads.not as far for us nothern boys,but on the line on flight.

plus it seems there are 5 old bird races planned for 2007 and the dax international is not one of them.sounds good to me.

[Guest]

The rumour-mongers were right again! Approximately 1500 pigeons from within a 50 mile radius of Chale will now not be sent ... not great planning for a club which has already made heavy losses this year.

[richard]

Another typical decisision by a so called National Club run by the members from the North. I fly about 8 miles from Chale! Might be a few resignations from Southern fanciers over this one! I suppose there is one good point, at least I can train on the line of flight!!!

Cheers

Richard

[ribble]

richard if they had gone to sennan cove a lot of lads in sec D would feel the same.

they are in a no win situation as far as i see it.

[Guest]

Ribble

 

You're right of course ... and the simple solution to Inland races for the NFC is to fly from the North at least 70 miles BEYOND the furthest flying members who have competed in the current year. e.g. race from Berwick or Dunbar.

 

Parking a race on the doorstep of members will always antagonise those worst affected ... whilst section D normally bear the brunt it has to be recognised that only section C sends fewer pigeons (stats 1998 - 2006) whilst sections A and B combined (incorporating the Isle of Wight, Portsmouth, Southampton, Chichester, etc) send more than four times the number of pigeons as section D.

 

I for one wouldn't dream of paying £3 (or 30p for that matter) to fly barely 20 miles. I'd rather stick pins in my eyes. I'm sure a great many section A and B fanciers will come to the same conclusion. We'll save our pigeons for the BBC from Sennen Cove the following week. Pity the members who bought Gold Rings at £5 each who now have no realistic chance of timing in the top 500 of the result.

[ribble]

i fully understand what you are saying,lets just hope its back to normal in 2007.

[Guest]

Ribble

 

You're right of course ... and the simple solution to Inland races for the NFC is to fly from the North at least 70 miles BEYOND the furthest flying members who have competed in the current year. e.g. race from Berwick or Dunbar.

 

Parking a race on the doorstep of members will always antagonise those worst affected ... whilst section D normally bear the brunt it has to be recognised that only section C sends fewer pigeons (stats 1998 - 2006) whilst sections A and B combined (incorporating the Isle of Wight, Portsmouth, Southampton, Chichester, etc) send more than four times the number of pigeons as section D.

 

I for one wouldn't dream of paying £3 (or 30p for that matter) to fly barely 20 miles. I'd rather stick pins in my eyes. I'm sure a great many section A and B fanciers will come to the same conclusion. We'll save our pigeons for the BBC from Sennen Cove the following week. Pity the members who bought Gold Rings at £5 each who now have no realistic chance of timing in the top 500 of the result.

[mickmcgrevy]

Hi all,

 

its allright saying that the NFC should have gone north with the young birds, but how many do you think would have sent when they have all been racing their young birds south, I think it would have been very close to none.

 

Also looking at the returns with the old birds out of Sennon Cove, I would sugest that it would have been a similar send if the NFC had gone there with the Y/B. particularly if it had been an easterly wind.

 

With regard to members who are unfortunately not flying very far from Chale, I can sympathise with them, and I also would not send, but these are difficult times.

 

Mick

[rlez]

Another typical decisision by a so called National Club run by the members from the North. I fly about 8 miles from Chale! Might be a few resignations from Southern fanciers over this one! I suppose there is one good point, at least I can train on the line of flight!!!

Cheers

Richard

 

hi richard

 

so you tell me where would you like the nfc to race from (because with no racing from france the choice has narrowed down)

les

[richard]

Considering that sections a & b send the most pigeons I would have thought that some consideration might have been given to them!

I think the NFC is going to have a shiny new transporter and very few pigeons to fill it.

It might be easier to swallow if it was decided by a poll of members rather than a few committee members changing their minds on a regular basis. I believe the old bird season started off from the north and then went west and then south didn't it?

Because of the constant changing of routes I think that very few Isle of Wight fanciers have sent birds with the NFC this year. I hope that this intolerable situation can be resolved next year, but what happens if we are restricted to inland racing again?

Will the NFC become just another midlands national with every race being from Chale?

Cheers

Richard

[Pompey Mick]

What a slap in the face for the committee of the Solent Fed, this year they have manipulated the race programme at every opportunity to cater fot the needs of National flyers, changing routes and racepoints at the drop of a hat to cater for the whims of the NFC with no regard to the rank & file members and this is how they are rewarded for their deference. I can see another committee meeting being called and race programme No 8 being implemented with races from Ryde & Newport hastily incorporated to prepare us for the forthcoming  national races.

[Mike Lycett]

No win situation for the NFC. Wherever they go they're snookered. As for going North there's precioys few in Midlands and North of us who'd fly - we're all South Roaders.

The "fairest" would have been not to have a YB race at all - but that would have pi$$sed people off too.

I'd say the NFC were trying to make the best of a sh!t deal myself

[ACE LOFTS]

i thought section "E" sent the most on the average scale or am i wrong.

look im not happy with the nfc going there because i only fly about 80 mile, but hey what can u do!

i agree with u mike

[ribble]

i thought it was sec E also,then G and then maybe L.

[mickmcgrevy]

Richard, I think you will find that sec E sends the most birds.

 

I have to agree with Mike, every organisation this year has been trying to make the best of a bad job, and it may well be that we are limited as to how far we can go into France next year as well.

 

Just out of interest Richard, where would you have had the NFC y/b race from.

 

Mick  

[Guest]

I saw some pretty irate Gold Ring holders last night at CSCFC marking ... because here we are at the 11th hour changing from Sennen Cove to Chale.

 

The question to be addressed here is WHY the change was considered necessary on the eve of the race? Mick McG ... do you know? Why couldn't the NFC stick to its declared program (choice of St Malo or Sennen Cove published on NFC website on 13th June)? Money for the race must be posted on or before the 24th August yet the vast majority of members will not see the official advertisement of the change until 25th August so are in danger of sending money off thinking they're still sending to Sennen Cove. Another fine and totally avoidable mess!

 

For the record section E sends the most pigeons (all races 1998-2006) followed by section G then section B.

[PIGEON_MAN]

ARE WE TO TAKE IT THAT THE CSCFC AS CHANGE TO CHALE AS WELL AS THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME CONFUSION IN YOUR POSTING BETWEEN THE CSCFC AND THE NFC.

[richard]

Mick

Personally I would have opted for Berwick or Carslisle, but at the very least stuck to the previously advertised racepoint of Sennen Cove.

Cheers

richard

[mickmcgrevy]

I was not at the meeting on Wednesday as we were away on hols, so I cannot say for definite the reason for changing to Chale from Sennon Cove. However I would hazard a guess, and say that it was because of the dissasterous raceing that all organisations had out of Sennon Cove with the old birds.

I supose the committee thought that there would be very few members send again to Sennon Cove, particularly if the wind was in the east.

 

I have to say,  I AGREE.

 

Richard, do you realy think that members would have turned their birds round at such a late stage, I think not.

 

Mick

[richard]

Mick

You are probably right , I don't have any figures for returns from Sennen Cove, but 846 pigeons were timed from there with the NFC.

Anyway good luck from Chale, I might even go and watch the lib.

Cheers

Richard

[Guest]

Agreed ... returns (expressed as a %age against entries) from Sennen Cove were horrible due to a lot of South in the Wind. Birds were allegedly getting reported in Ireland and Scotland! My beef is as much about timing as anything else ... why couldn't a post-mortem of Sennen Cove be concluded earlier, and an alternative found that people could at least try and plan for? As for Chale well remember what we're asking the babies to do now ... section D must fly due West to get home to Cornwall and North Devon ... parts of Section E will have to fly due east to the extremities of Kent ... southerly members of section A will have to fly due East also ... and with the bulk of the convoy wanting to belt straight up through Hampshire and Surrey there are going to be some horror stories in some sections as regards returns? When has there ever been a race which could be described as East, West, and South road in the same breath? UTTER NONSENSE I say!

[mickmcgrevy]

Well lads, point taken on both your postings, I think it was the east wind that did the damage, all I can say is that it has been a difficult year to say the least, and I can't see it altering next year, so good luck to all those members who do send to the NFC, AND i HOPE RETURNS ARE GOOD.

 

All the best

 

Mick