REASONS FOR YB LOSSES

[jimmy white]

WONDER IF WE ALL PUT OUR REASONS DOWN FOR THE  BAD YB LOSSES THE LAST FEW YEARS,,AND POSSIBLY BE ABLE TO DRAW ANY CONCLUSIONS, FROM IT,

[jimmy white]

MY FIRST REASON WOULD BE BREEDING TOO MANY YBS FOR THE SIZE AND AIR SPACE OF THE LOFT [bUT MANY OTHER REASONS TOO]

[Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS]

i agree with that

[T_T]

I agree with Jimmy on fanciers breeding way too many youngsters for the size of their shed.  I think most people do it to keep up with the Jones'es and suffer the concequences.

[Roland]

Too much inbreed dreeding ...

[PIGEON_MAN]

TO MANY YOUNGSTERS BEING BRED FROM PIGEONS WITH LONG PEDIGREES AND BIRDS THAT HAVE DONE WELL RACING,IT DOESN,T MEAN THAT THE YOUNGBIRDS WILL BE ANY GOOD,HAVE FOUND THAT MOST OF MY BEST YOUNSTERS ARE OFF BIRDS THAT HAVE NEVER RACED.

[NANCYVIEWLOFTS]

young bird sickness has got to be a major reason for heavy losses

i agree that over crowding is another reason but how many of us actually overcrowd

the incubation period is in my opinion when y/birds go missing and not all fanciers notice it they dehydrate and get disorientated

result awol

[Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS]

MY FIRST REASON WOULD BE BREEDING TOO MANY YBS FOR THE SIZE AND AIR SPACE OF THE LOFT [bUT MANY OTHER REASONS TOO]

 

i agree but it dont affect me i have a 24X8 shed for 60 y/bs

[richard]

I agree that YB sickness has a significant effect on the losses of Youngsters.

[Guest TAMMY_1]

WELL I HAVE HEARD TALES OF OLDER FANCIERS WHO HAD LOFTS FULL OF BIRDS WITH HARDLY ANY SPACE AT ALL AND IT NEVER AFFECTED THEM IF THEY CAN BREATHE THEY HAVE ENOUGH AIR ALLTHOUGH I AM NOT ADVOCATING FILLING YOUR LOFTS WITH BIRDS

[Roland]

What is over crowding! t is just a lame crutch for poor management, and sometime for the unforeseen. Never seen yet - whether wild or in loft - where they don't crowd naturally, and are more content and fitter, more competative for it. So that's a no no.

Just seen you post Jimmy as I am writing... 100% correct, and all keen as mustard to jump into the 'Top Fancied' perch.

Inbreeding and loss of natural element of their ability is obviously top of the list ... but folks like the fancy Paper and think it add to their worth... don't add much to it when the birds pee off.

[young man]

i think its down to the fanciers not nowing there is a problem in there lofts,it could be down to numbers or an underying virus.

[Roland]

Well the reality is that you can eliinate overcrowding.

Never heard of it when lofts were 6 x 4 and housed everything. You only ever see 'Townies' grouping closer, and they have all the room in the street ... just out of pecking is the oder of te day.

[mark]

breeding off fancy pedigrees which mean nothing. over crowding  feeding the latest fancy pigeon mixes  and to many pills and potions for the birds. only my opinion though.

[Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS]

breeding off fancy pedigrees which mean nothing. over crowding  feeding the latest fancy pigeon mixes  and to many pills and potions for the birds. only my opinion though.

 

your right

[THE FIFER]

breeding too many ybs and filling the skies on race days with birds flying in all directions and some flying south and some flying north, it must be like a spiders web in the sky.

[Chatrace]

I think it a more active Alien contacts, they love to eat pigeons and I think there population is growng and that is the reason for greater losses.  

[Roland]

Inbreeding damages the inmune system granted.

Y'b sickness is fortunately something I've never had.

Mind I also believe that Garden lime, and lime pecked in the walls are of a soothing effect. and I don't believe  in the E.Coli spread from it for a moment.

[Roland]

And fantails are a lot hardier than racers... so be careful. Like many I thought that they would make great 'Foster Parents' .. seems they can implant more harm than good when feeding.

[Guest]

With respect, I think the time for 'wondering' is over and its time now for 'doing' to find out whats really behind all these losses.

 

Probably no single 'large' cause, but an unfortunate combination of 'small' ones?

 

Thinks its a job for some professional research, commissioned and paid for by the Unions?

 

Our pockets will be able to stand that kind of funding over a couple of years, but not the  outlay (time, money & effort) that goes into raising & training pigeons just to lose them .... a waste of all four really: time, money, effort & pigeon.

 

 

[Guest Paulo]

Its the microwaves in the air I'm just going off to put my tinfoil hat on now.

 

Who knows perhaps training is being a tad nelected with the ever increasing cost of petrol?

[kev]

I dont think training is a factor,its a lot easier now than years ago no such thing as training twice a day your birds were in the basket before you went to work and not home till lunch time.

Stuck in a basket half the day and still not a bother on them.Thats overcrowding ;)

 

The lofts now are much better than before but the birds are more prone to sickness,I think the misuse of medication is a huge factor but its a merry go round fecked if you do and even more fecked if you dont.

Thank god for microwaves just going to heat my brekkie :)

[Roland]

Bruno the 'Members' won't even fund a P.R. fir to looby or put a united front together over 'Avian Flu' / Hawks or Falcons' etc. etc. at less than a £1 per year, and you think they would  tolerate funding for Y/b' losses! They don't mind paying a small fortune for  fancy bits of paper, but a PR firm for a quiddy! A fund for... forget it!

[stevebelbin]

I lost less Ybs training last year (as in, didnt lose one in approx 25 tosses) than this year and last year I had more YBs in less space. This year I doubled the space and halved the amount off YBs and I lost 5 ybs training. So Im baffled about the overcrowding!!. One thing I will say is the birds last year were much tamer and although they did have a few problems due to overcrowding i.e. a bit of respitory they came much better from training. I think its a combination of people breeding of birds that have not proven themselves, the wires, hawk attacks, clashing and the weather conditions we have had the past few years.

[Guest shadow]

Too many people breeding rubbish off paper pigeons and breeding too many young birds no one man can look after a team of 100 piogeons and give them the care and attention they need little things get overlooked and one takes ill before you know it most have the same symptons. Personally I breed 30 youngsters and generally finish the season 21.