colours of birds

[Guest TAMMY_1]

will a black chequer cock and a pure black hen produce pure black birds or could they also be black chequers ?

[harky]

will a black chequer cock and a pure black hen produce pure black birds or could they also be black chequers ?

 

with black being the dominant gene good chance they would be blacks

[Guest]

Think you'll find the average is 50% of each.

 

Talking about 1 colour [black] and 2 patterns [chequer, spread] = '4' genes in theory.

 

4 box square gives DS DChq SD ChqD : DS and SD are the same; DChq and ChqD are the same = 2 Darks and 2 Dark Chequers.

 

Can't say which pattern is the Dominant one tho, which could have a bearing on  the outcome.

[REDCHEQHEN]

A friend bred us a youngster from two blacks - guess what we got ( cos he used our ring) - an ordinary chequer - not even dark  

 

still got her though  ;D

[majorpet]

will a black chequer cock and a pure black hen produce pure black birds or could they also be black chequers ?

 

AS FAR AS IM AWARE A TRUE BLACK DOES NOT EXIST.IN MOST IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY, YOU WILL SEE BARS-AS IN BLUE BAR.

 

MAJORPET

[Guest TAMMY_1]

 

AS FAR AS IM AWARE A TRUE BLACK DOES NOT EXIST.IN MOST IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY, YOU WILL SEE BARS-AS IN BLUE BAR.

 

MAJORPET

 

not so, i have birds that are pure black and there is nothing on them at all, i also have maybe what you are talking about where i referred to a black chequer where the bird is black but you can see bars through it

[majorpet]

 

not so, i have birds that are pure black and there is nothing on them at all, i also have maybe what you are talking about where i referred to a black chequer where the bird is black but you can see bars through it

 

I STAND CORRECTED.

 

MAJORPET

[Guest beautyhomer]

As I have previously posted on other threads blacks are produced by combining blue with the Spread gene.This is not a pattern gene but a colour modifying gene.If you use blue bars then you will still be able to see the bars on the blacks produced.If you use checkers then they will be pure black.

If the black hen you have has 2 spread genes all the young will be black.If she has only one spread gene then you will get 50% blacks and 50% checkers.

Spread is a dominant non sex linked colour modifying gene

[majorpet]

As I have previously posted on other threads blacks are produced by combining blue with the Spread gene.This is not a pattern gene but a colour modifying gene.If you use blue bars then you will still be able to see the bars on the blacks produced.If you use checkers then they will be pure black.

If the black hen you have has 2 spread genes all the young will be black.If she has only one spread gene then you will get 50% blacks and 50% checkers.

Spread is a dominant non sex linked colour modifying gene

 

DO YOU HAVE A GOOD KNOWLEDGE ON THE SUBJECT? I WOULD LIKE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT IT!!! ANYTHING ON THE W.W.W. /OR BOOKS YOU COULD RECOMEND?

 

MAJORPET

[Guest TAMMY_1]

 

DO YOU HAVE A GOOD KNOWLEDGE ON THE SUBJECT? I WOULD LIKE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT IT!!! ANYTHING ON THE W.W.W. /OR BOOKS YOU COULD RECOMEND?

 

MAJORPET

 

look on here

 

 

http://www.angelfire.com/ga3/pigeongenetics/

http://pwp.surfglobal.net/rmangile/Pigeons/index.html

http://www.angelfire.com/ga/huntleyloft/Page1.html

[majorpet]

 

look on here

 

 

http://www.angelfire.com/ga3/pigeongenetics/

http://pwp.surfglobal.net/rmangile/Pigeons/index.html

http://www.angelfire.com/ga/huntleyloft/Page1.html

 

THANKS MATE.

MAJORPET

[Guest beautyhomer]

The two books that I have on pigeon genetics are,

 

Origins and Excursions in Pigeon Genetics by Dr. W.F. Hollander.

Breeding and Inheritance in Pigeons by Dr. Axel Sell

[majorpet]

The two books that I have on pigeon genetics are,

 

Origins and Excursions in Pigeon Genetics by Dr. W.F. Hollander.

Breeding and Inheritance in Pigeons by Dr. Axel Sell

 

thanks.

 

majorpet

 

 

[Back garden fancier]

I bought a white hen at Blackpool because the wife wanted something different, Paired it to a blue chequer and they bred 4 dark cheq's! Not even a white flight.

[Fair Play]

Racing -Pigeon-Fancier.com

Not comprehensive but a fair idea.The late Leslie Davidson (Observer) of the BHW he was a "fundi" at this kind of stuff