any body use potassium pagante

[George UK]

any body still use potassium pagante i think thats what its called my jar is old name has rubed off

i always use it its great

great for getting rid of the lice

 

[Guest karl adams]

i use it in there bath warter

[Lennut Tar]

George UK. The real name is Potassium Permanganate, & I have just come in from the stock loft, before coming online here,  where I had changed the water & used some in the drink for the birds etc. Out of favour now in most lofts, more expensive medication is preferred (don't ask me why) I've  used it for many years & I always will (bought it in bulk last purchase I had), because the goverment placed it on the banned list, "Terrorists/Explosives," they told everyone.

Load of crap in my opinion, for us pigeon flyers. As a demolition expert, :X :X :X  compliments of the Goverment (2 years) many years ago, you would find more dangerous items under most peoples sink's etc, or in their laundry cupboard in my few.

Enjoy.    

[Ohio]

Does it do something besides get rid of lice?

[Guest casbri]

potassium pomangamate its called george i use it the same as you very good for keeping birds clean,

[ch pied]

potassium permanganate , can be bought in any chemist shop ,no restiictions.

condy's cristials you won't get them , re clasified 1971, into same class as black powder, condy's mixed with ******* and you get a very effective ,

para-tecnic

[ch pied]

potassium permangate , is a mild antisecptic

[REDCHEQHEN]

Potassium Permanganate is an oxidising agent

 

From Wikipedia:

 

 

London chemist Henry Bollmann Condy had an interest in disinfectants, and marketed several products including ozonised water. He found that fusing pyrolusite with NaOH and dissolved it in water produced a solution with disinfectant properties. He patented this solution, and marketed it as Condy's Fluid. Although effective, the solution was not very stable. This was overcome by using KOH rather than NaOH. This was more stable, and had the advantage of easy conversion to the equally effective potassium permanganate crystals. This crystalline material was known as Condy’s crystals or Condy’s powder. Potassium permanganate was comparatively easy to manufacture so Condy was subsequently forced to spend considerable time in litigation in order to stop competitors from marketing products similar to Condy's Fluid or Condy's Crystals.

 

[Guest TAMMY_1]

i use it in there bath warter

 

same here, used it for years now.

[Lennut Tar]

Potassium Permanganate (condies crystals as I like to call it). For anyone fortunate enough to read the book about pigeons by Levi, 1st printed over 50  odd years ago, & still available in certain areas today. It was one of his recommendations for the treatment of canker, along with Bicarbonate of Soda & Hydrochloric Acid (spirits of salts) being an ex plumber, I certainly know what that smells like when it gets up your nose etc, but they all form part of my medicine cabinet you could say, & have done so for many years.

Cheap & nasty some here may say, & out of date (maybe) but if used in the proper manner all can be of a benefit to the birds at times. At least in my opinion, "but then"  ;D ;D ;D  I'm only a novice at this game, compared to some here.

PS. Robert Stroud (Birdman of Alcatraz) he also had some interesting tonics/medication, when he wrote about the problems & treatments of birds one could say too.

Enjoy.

[George UK]

never use it with wet fingers its a bugger to get off lol

 

[jimmy white]

my father used condies crystals oin the pigeons bath regular,, never done them any harm,, but i would prefer giving them a hot bath , the day after a race ,, i just feel that some may have taken a knock on liberation, or simply to ease their muscles ,, hot enough to be able to put your hand in [remember a pigeons temp, is higher than ours , about 5 degrees] they will enjoy this  

[THE FIFER]

used to make a water mix for birdswith breething problems or one eye cold, you held its head under the water for a few seconds and when it came out you thought you had done something wrong as the bird could not stand for a while this was a old hand remidy

[HOMER49]

my father used condies crystals oin the pigeons bath regular,, never done them any harm,, but i would prefer giving them a hot bath , the day after a race ,, i just feel that some may have taken a knock on liberation, or simply to ease their muscles ,, hot enough to be able to put your hand in [remember a pigeons temp, is higher than ours , about 5 degrees] they will enjoy this  

Hi Jimmy

A hot bath after a race slows down the muscle recovery rate A BIG NO NO

Cheers

Homer 49

 

 

[Lennut Tar]

used to make a water mix for birdswith breething problems or one eye cold, you held its head under the water for a few seconds and when it came out you thought you had done something wrong as the bird could not stand for a while this was a old hand remidy

 

The Fifer,   :D it's than long since I last used that remedy I had completly forgotten about it, the mix/potion was that strong at the time  ;D ;D ;D (black as a coal mine) you could say, & I do not think at the time, we would have won any kudos from the poor little buggers, that we were trying to help.  

Shocking,   :P When one thinks about some of the things, we have attempted to do in the past.  :X :X :X To help our little mates survive (worse than death I'm afraid for some, unfortunatly).   :( .

Enjoy.  

 

[George UK]

lol tar

i must put some more vic in the water make them breath easy

i have done it when they sneese

they can't drink it only smell it

it works great

it's great when a pigeon thats bad comes back to helth

my little babies

 

[jimmy white]

Hi Jimmy

A hot bath after a race slows down the muscle recovery rate A BIG NO NO

Cheers

Homer 49

 

 

how soon after the race homer,?, i have given this hot bath regular on a sunday after the race and the birds won very well indeed  :-/

[George UK]

wtg jimmy any room for me in the hot tub with the birds lol

coooo

well done

happy new year bro

George UK

[Guest]

Hi Jimmy

A hot bath after a race slows down the muscle recovery rate A BIG NO NO

Cheers

Homer 49

 

 

i always was lead to believe a warm(not hot) bath relaxes muscles and thought that aids recovery.

cold water expells blood from the surface of the muscles and hence there will be reduced oxygen flowing through the muscles.

all muscles require oxygenation through them to perform...if reduced oxygen flow then cramps can occur.

[George UK]

i have neve fed my birds after a training sesion

i give them 30 mins to cool down a little feed n a little water

then an hour later eat all you want n drink

i had a red checker come back after 4 years so she loves me lol

 

[NANCYVIEWLOFTS]

use to use condys crystals in the bath water for the birds

also when we removed the dew claws and docked the tails of our dogs we would crush the crystals into a fine powder and rub it into the flesh  

it cortorised the flesh and stopped it bleeding straight away it also cleansed the wound