johnny11 Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 SJ You can time two birds on the same second using a T3. As Sec seen it twice this year. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 shu used to allow two rubbers in one thimble ,,,,why was this changed, i dont know BECAUSE FOLK WERE CHEATING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 I heard of that being done a few times on t3 johnny 2 seperate thimbles and coming up with the same time AND UP HERE IT IS PERFECTLY LEGAL YOU CAN TIME IN AS MANY THIMBLES AS YOU CAN STRIKE IN AND AS I HAVE DONE AND SEEN PLENTY RESULTS WHERE BIRDS ARE ON THE EXACT SAME SECOND ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG SAME AS I HAVE SEEN PLENTY RESULTS WITH ETS WHEN A MAN TIMED IN 15 BIRDS IN SECONDS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paulo Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 ETS is the devils tool I think we should all go back to using toulets now where did I put my spare freezer lol only thing I don't like about it is wondering how much money it is going to cost the sport is expensive enough how much does a basic system cost??????? If it did come in you would have to allow people to use clocks as well as I think a lot of people won't be able to afford it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 The system costs about £500 pounds Paulo (unikon) but its worth its weight in gold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul l Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 you use your normal clock as your backup to the ets??. the only thing i have to ask is the shu say you cant put 2 rubbers in the same thimble but you can time 2 in the same time with the ets?? so will the shu scrap the same thimble rule?? FIRST TIME I HAVE HEARD THAT ITS A VERY GOOD POINT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 Same post yesterday Paul Dont know why they scrapped two in a thimble would like to know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy white Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 i think this two in the one thimble rule was scrapped more than 15 years ago shu clock rule 17,rule book 1992 i see it in, maybe someone remembers when excactly, but a while ago now i would say about roughly 20 years ago, anyone racing then might know excactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 Same post yesterday Paul Dont know why they scrapped two in a thimble would like to know? BECAUSE SOMEONE HAD TWO RUBBERS IN ONE THIMBLE AND ONE OF THEM WAS A POOLED BIRD AND ONE WASNT AND THEY CLAIMED THE POOLED BIRD WAS THEIR FIRST ONE AND AS NO ONE COULD ARGUE THE MONEY HAD TO BE PAID OUT AND THATS WHY IT WAS SCRAPPED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 you use your normal clock as your backup to the ets??. the only thing i have to ask is the shu say you cant put 2 rubbers in the same thimble but you can time 2 in the same time with the ets?? so will the shu scrap the same thimble rule?? FIRST TIME I HAVE HEARD THAT ITS A VERY GOOD POINT TWO THIMBLES IS DIFFERENT ALTOGETHER EVEN IF THEY ARE ON THE SAME SECOND YOU GET THE FIRST BIRD TIMED IN WHEN YOU OPEN THE CLOCK AND REMOVE THE THIMBLE WITH THE FIRST BIRDS RUBBER PREVIOUS POST EXPLAINS ABOUT TWO RUBBERS IN ONE THIMBLE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paulo Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 The system costs about £500 pounds Paulo (unikon) but its worth its weight in gold Would certainly make thing easier for training purposes if you were flying on your own imagine but 500 is a lot of money. Suppose the cost will come down eventually and with people leaving the sport you could get a second hand one cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sj irving jnr Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 i see what you are saying,so what happenswhen you get the same with the ets and there doing the same velocity and ones a pooler its something to think about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOMER49 Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 2 birds cant be timed in together with ets It might show the same seconds and same velocity but it prints out one bird in front of another THIS IS THE WINNER This is done within the ets clock which calculates to 7 or 9 decimal places it can only regester 1 bird at a time even if theres only 1 million of a second between then Homer 49 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE FIFER Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 THE SHU RULE NOT ALLOWING 2 RUBBERS IN THE ONE THIMBLE, SO WHY CAN U TIME 2 BIRDS WITH ETS, SHU WILL HAVE TO CHANGE THE RULE, WHAT U MUST UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A LOT OF RULES IN THE CONVENTIONAL CLOCK RULES WHICH DO NOT COME INTO LINE WITH ETS, IE ALL BIRDS MUST BE MARKED WITH A RUBBER BAND, THIS IS WHY THEY BROUGHT IN SEPARATE RULES FOR ETS, CONVENTIONAL CLOCK RULES DO NOT APPLY TO ETS, AND VICE VERSA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chatrace Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 We caan have 2 in one after the 1st bird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE FIFER Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 THATS RIGHT HOMER WITH ETS, BUT 2 RUBBERS IN A THIMBLE WHO IS TO SAY WHICH IS THE FIRST BIRD, IF THERE WAS A POOLER AND A NON POOLER, YES I KNOW ALOT ARE GOING TO SAY THE RING ON THE BOTTOM IS FIRST , BUT WITH SOME THIMBLES THE RINGS CAN BE TOGETHER, OPEN END THIMBLES HAVE TO BE PUT IN UPSIDE DOWN SO WHERE COULD 2 RUBBERS POSSIBLY FINNISH UP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tubbles Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 Don't want to fall out with anyone over my first post, but since this is about opinions. I am the secretary of my club and over the last 5 years we have gone from 46 members down to 24, most of these have left because of age/health but when asked about the ETS system in the past the members that left the club just about all agreed that it would be another nail in the coffin of the sport. concerns were from price to install and run to members complaining that there would be no enjoyment if you were not there to see the birds homing in. In our federation as a whole there are NO new members coming into the sport and then if you do manage to get one that had to have ETS to compete it is still £500 or thereabouts. At least with the clocks there are always second hand STB's or such available for £100 or less. If they are allowed to be used I don't really know which way I myself would go but it seems that the money men would gain another couple of seconds advantage. ??) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOMER49 Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 THATS RIGHT HOMER WITH ETS, BUT 2 RUBBERS IN A THIMBLE WHO IS TO SAY WHICH IS THE FIRST BIRD, IF THERE WAS A POOLER AND A NON POOLER, YES I KNOW ALOT ARE GOING TO SAY THE RING ON THE BOTTOM IS FIRST , BUT WITH SOME THIMBLES THE RINGS CAN BE TOGETHER, OPEN END THIMBLES HAVE TO BE PUT IN UPSIDE DOWN SO WHERE COULD 2 RUBBERS POSSIBLY FINNISH UP Agree with you 2 rubbers in one thimble should not be allowed Can only cause friction within the club HOMER 49 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiley Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 personnaly i want to stick to the old fashioned method of timing and taking the rubber of the bird and clocking it in myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sj irving jnr Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 do the lads on the other side of the border think it will ever get in the rpra? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy white Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 ,,,if you put two birds in the one thimble , a non pooler and a pooler ,, both these birds would be the same time , if there was a pooler in front of them that would win the pools , but if there was a pooler at the back of them , that woud be beaten for the pools, both birds in the one thimble would be the same time [no bird could be between them ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fergie Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 ,,,if you put two birds in the one thimble , a non pooler and a pooler ,, both these birds would be the same time , if there was a pooler in front of them that would win the pools , but if there was a pooler at the back of them , that woud be beaten for the pools, both birds in the one thimble would be the same time [no bird could be between them ] [/quot my last race was 1985 and i used to put one rubber in a thimble, to put two birds in one thimble god what kind of clock do you jimmy big ben lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
square_peg Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 ,,,if you put two birds in the one thimble , a non pooler and a pooler ,, both these birds would be the same time , if there was a pooler in front of them that would win the pools , but if there was a pooler at the back of them , that woud be beaten for the pools, both birds in the one thimble would be the same time [no bird could be between them ] EH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy white Posted October 14, 2006 Report Share Posted October 14, 2006 BECAUSE SOMEONE HAD TWO RUBBERS IN ONE THIMBLE AND ONE OF THEM WAS A POOLED BIRD AND ONE WASNT AND THEY CLAIMED THE POOLED BIRD WAS THEIR FIRST ONE AND AS NO ONE COULD ARGUE THE MONEY HAD TO BE PAID OUT AND THATS WHY IT WAS SCRAPPED eh// Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted October 14, 2006 Report Share Posted October 14, 2006 Well if two crossed the line together with a ET. And it printed out the one you wanted first second... then you would ask that the first one be struck off, and not counted. Likewise with two in the thimble. Both birds could have won, so both in reality qualify for the pools... if it was second read it would still be the first pool pigeon if the other wasn't poled... or am I missing something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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