why do children not seem interested in our sport ?

[Guest shadow]

The bitching and backstabbing seems to get worse every year and is one of the main reasons some fanciers pack in.

[Roland]

Time is not there... even if one wants to take time with them and show them, then the parents are anti because of expense and thinking they'll end up doing it... which would also be good lo

[Wiley]

all of the above i reckon

[rockinrick]

my son was helping for a while until he discovered girls now i cant get him in the loft or even near the feed bins lol

[Guest Paulo]

my son was helping for a while until he discovered girls now i cant get him in the loft or even near the feed bins lol

 

thats what happens lol

[blackjack]

Few peple urban or rural keep stock now people are growing further from livestock day by day . people just do not understand livestock now.

[collect500]

i,ve not ticked any box as they all apply  and as i,ve said in the past its not fair to start against people who have more expierience and better birds on the same footing

we shud have a novice sec for beginners whatever age they are

                                 keith

[billy_g]

the cost of starting up is a joke for young people , ive just moved location 1,300 for the loft another 1,000 for fixtures inside the loft , and about another 1,000 for odds and sods and im counting myself short sorry no way were going to get new starts in this hobby of ours

[birdman55678]

I believe it just to much work for the younger generation.  They would much rather visit with friend, watch TV, Play video games or go to the malls shopping.  Also the sport nowadays is very expensive which is prohibitive to many, young and old alike.  About every box listed above could be checked. Good Day.

[Guest Paulo]

probably the politics as well.

[deano198]

hi my daughter is interested in flying pigeons i do believe that kids under 16 can fly pigeon for no fees but can not see the point in letting them fly for free if they can not get in to a pigeon club to send there birds to the race has i have a daughter who is 9 and would love to fly pigeons but would be refused to be come a member of the club i have been told they would vote against her so what is the point in letting  kids fly pigeons if they can not get in as a member to fly in the first place  i hope you all can help with this as she would love to fly her pigeons thank you all the best in the sport  s.hopkins her mum

[Guest chrisss]

hi my daughter is interested in flying pigeons i do believe that kids under 16 can fly pigeon for no fees but can not see the point in letting them fly for free if they can not get in to a pigeon club to send there birds to the race has i have a daughter who is 9 and would love to fly pigeons but would be refused to be come a member of the club i have been told they would vote against her so what is the point in letting  kids fly pigeons if they can not get in as a member to fly in the first place  i hope you all can help with this as she would love to fly her pigeons thank you all the best in the sport  s.hopkins her mum

 

this people is one of the reasons [along with defra/hawks/local councils et alles]why this sport of ours is dying who in the name of what ever god you belive in would want to stop a kid from joining the local club what a bunch of xxxxxxx > > > >

[rembrant2coo]

hi my daughter is interested in flying pigeons i do believe that kids under 16 can fly pigeon for no fees but can not see the point in letting them fly for free if they can not get in to a pigeon club to send there birds to the race has i have a daughter who is 9 and would love to fly pigeons but would be refused to be come a member of the club i have been told they would vote against her so what is the point in letting  kids fly pigeons if they can not get in as a member to fly in the first place  i hope you all can help with this as she would love to fly her pigeons thank you all the best in the sport  s.hopkins her mum

 

the problem i see by your writings is you seem to have a problem with the club ,i don,t think all clubs are like the one your talking about , although it does happen that some members can,t do things they want to do when there is kids about in the clubhouse , my club for example would be glad to have some young ones come in because the fanciers we have are so dictated to helping those , kids and others and our club would make her /or him most welcome with clocks ,baskets and birds and whatever else is required                  

 

 

 

   signed h maidment   secy of HOWE PREMIER R.P.C.  ASSOC TO KINGDOM R.P.R.A/

[Whats it called Cumbernauld]

This club needs to be named and allowed to give an explanation. Tin pot dictators springs to mind just not real.But alas one of the many reasons why one loft races will dominate our sport in years to come. Takes the discussion making out of the hands OF THOSE WHO are unable to debate, understand, and act accordingly.

 

Sad day indeed.looking forward to hering more on this issue.

 

 

Cheers

 

Rab Smith

[DOVEScot]

Lewis aka Cabin Boy was a keen as they come last year, everyday at the birds cleaning etc, then things died back a bit during the cold winter nights, he was 15 in October and now he has discovered a new type of bird, I bought and got gifted some good racers of some good flyers, I have now gifted them to members from the site, if he gets interested in them again I have been promised some young birds back of the members I gifted them to.

 

I have been involved in sports coaching for 30 years

 

Any kid entering any sport can only do so by the help of his parents, a place where he can gain interest or communal place where they are encouraged to go along and learn by taking part

 

Some ideas

1.  Help of parents normally comes from fanciers trying to encourage there kids to keep the tradition going

 

2.  mentors to encourage young people to come along and take part in the sport and see if they like it

 

3.  governing bodies to set up a facility in all the areas where young people can come along and part in the sport to see if people like it

 

Now fit that into any sport and you will see it is how they encourage anyone to take part

[pjc]

I have put some info on another thread regarding this, I am a sec in the same fed and am disgusted that a junior would be refused membership!

 

Phil

[Whats it called Cumbernauld]

pjc ,

 

The power to include or exclude should not lie at club level. The sport from this point of view need a complete over hale. the choice of which club should lie with the fancier,within reason of course. Clubs draw up their own radius,this should be dictated at fed or even union level.

 

Now I am away off on one. politics in our sport is not democratic due to lack off interest due to apathy.

 

Cheers

 

Rab Smith

[DOVEScot]

pjc ,

 

The power to include or exclude should not lie at club level. The sport from this point of view need a complete over hale. the choice of which club should lie with the fancier,within reason of course. Clubs draw up their own radius,this should be dictated at fed or even union level.

 

Now I am away off on one. politics in our sport is not democratic due to lack off interest due to apathy.

 

Cheers

 

Rab Smith

 

Anyone being accepted or rejected from a club, their details should be and or a reason why should be sent to the governing body of that club, eg SHU, RPA etc,

 

[Whats it called Cumbernauld]

DOVEscot, whats your thoughts on this subject.Think in our sport the tail wagging the dog, rings true

 

Much work to be done, in order to bring us anywhere near being in a position to look for or actively seek new members

 

Cheers

 

Rab

[THE FIFER]

I think there is too much dissapointments in the sport,IE losing birds and never getting on the sheet, as they are competing against long time fanciers, also it takes up far to much of their time and money, and if they dont have transport they are lost regarding training etc, the only way is if they get involved with a adult, but even then they change, they are more into football and bikes etc,

[Merlin]

hi my daughter is interested in flying pigeons i do believe that kids under 16 can fly pigeon for no fees but can not see the point in letting them fly for free if they can not get in to a pigeon club to send there birds to the race has i have a daughter who is 9 and would love to fly pigeons but would be refused to be come a member of the club i have been told they would vote against her so what is the point in letting  kids fly pigeons if they can not get in as a member to fly in the first place  i hope you all can help with this as she would love to fly her pigeons thank you all the best in the sport  s.hopkins her mum

 

Nowher above do I read that "Club"has not allowed this little lady to join,what I am reading is "hearsay" my advice to you is make application,an dif she is refused membership,this young lady and any others shoud be welcomed into any pigeon club,or then membership would have a "serious"case on their hands

[DOVEScot]

DOVEscot, whats your thoughts on this subject.Think in our sport the tail wagging the dog, rings true

 

Much work to be done, in order to bring us anywhere near being in a position to look for or actively seek new members

 

Cheers

 

Rab

 

There are elements of it in all sports, but if all we want is to enjoy it for yourself then the sport will die with us, you have to encourage new blood to keep it alive, I think the powers at be need adapt to modern ideas, too many old hats in the positions, stuck in a time warp. Too many not agreeing to differ in opinions.

Racing is not the only part of keeping pigeons, but a body that would encourage all types is the way forward.

[DOVEScot]

I think there is too much dissapointments in the sport,IE losing birds and never getting on the sheet, as they are competing against long time fanciers, also it takes up far to much of their time and money, and if they dont have transport they are lost regarding training etc, the only way is if they get involved with a adult, but even then they change, they are more into football and bikes etc,

 

There are disapointments in any sport, try training for six months for a fight, travel all the way to France and get beat in three seconds due to lack of focus, well that wa my exuse any way ;D

 

You are never going to compete with Sony, Nintendo, football or the likes of it, but unless you want the sport to die then you have to encourage new blood

[pjc]

The union rules should be change!

Any members that resides within the club boundary shall be accepted unless there is a justifyable reason! Any application refused should be confirmed by the region with the club providing the reason fir refusal!

I have spoken to the girls dad and it appears the reason the club are rejecting the application is that he raced with the club and then lost interest. His daughter misses the birds and want to race on her own but the club thinks that it is her dad who wants to race again but in her name!

He was a fully paid up member that did not default so they have no reason to refuse!

I have found out that the club involved isn't in the same fed as ourselves so I have given them our fed secs phone number to put them intouch with another local club.

 

Phil

[Whats it called Cumbernauld]

I was saying earlier pjc taking this further, the Union should designate Federation areas, and the Fed in turn should do the same for Clubs.

 

Rab