boggy ground at new address..

[mark proctor]

hi lads,,i move to my new address wed and were i am having my loft the ground is a bit boggy under the grass...looks like theres been water sat on it last winter so im exspecting it back in the near future,,,the back end of my 18ft loft will be on the solid path but the middle and front will be on the grass...any ideas lads as i dont wont it sinking when winter comes.. :( my mate just said dig holes and put concrete in..but ive got enough on my plate moveing and trying to get my young birds broke of without messing around like that...yours ideas would be much aprechated...cheers lads...mark..

[fletch]

maybe some large sleepers that reach across to the hard grounds so there is no weight on the boggy ground.

[OLDYELLOW]

dig holes get some big drain pipes and fill holes and pipes with concrete and put loft on stilts and tap till pipes all level youl have to dig down till you find clay otherwise it could sink   have same problem at my addrdess hence built three walls front back and middle  just need to raise soil level once front drive is done ill get a few tons dropped off

[mark proctor]

dig holes get some big drain pipes and fill holes and pipes with concrete and put loft on stilts and tap till pipes all level youl have to dig down till you fing clay otherwise it could sink  

 

like i just said mark above i havent got enough time m8 were up side down with all sorts of probles comming at the same time ,,weve got to move quick...very... :(

[OLDYELLOW]

suppose quickest way would be to lay flag stones and a damp course and sleepers

[Guest]

Your mate has given sound advice Mark. Its either concrete pillars or concrete building blocks and rase it off the ground as high as possible, otherwise you may be like Noah come the winter. Best to do it right first time, rather than have to take it down and make good. JMO

[mark proctor]

thanks for the advice lads..im crapping my self now....one good thing theres a builders yard right opperset me if i need any slabs or oat....cheers lads mark.. ;) ;)

[mark proctor]

right im of to do a bit more packing..my head hurts... :(

[Roland]

Like Quicksand / Silo's the only quick way is to lay planks / sheeting etc. Anything that covers an area.... the lager the area the better.... But one must bear in mind the elements and 'Rotting.

Good luck.... where you located?

[Guest]

Mark i assume you would be putting loft on pillars of blocks with timber runners? If so just dig into the ground and sink an extra block or two into it.

[mark proctor]

Like Quicksand / Silo's the only quick way is to lay planks / sheeting etc. Anything that covers an area.... the lager the area the better.... But one must bear in mind the elements and 'Rotting.

Good luck.... where you located?

 

hi roland..i am located in north east lincolnshire mate...cleethorpes...moveing to grimsby..only 1 mile away...

[mark proctor]

Mark i assume you would be putting loft on pillars of blocks with timber runners? If so just dig into the ground and sink an extra block or two into it.

 

hi mick m8...yes for the little time ive got left that would be the best idea m8...thanks..ps yes the loft will be on breeze block with lenths of 2x2 runners the full lengh of loft....cheers m8..mark...all im bothered about mick is ive got 28 loverly looking young birds ere what ive paid good money for and i reacken ile loose the lot...fanciers have advised me to soap there wings down..or put elastic bands on them..but i dont realy wont to do that.but ????????????????? i dont no what to do...?/? ANY IDEAS LADS.. :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/

[Guest shadow]

you have had some good advice it now your choice what you do

[mark proctor]

you have had some good advice it now your choice what you do

 

yes i no m8...mick b sounds the quickest way for me...

[Guest asha]

Hi Mark,just put 2x2 slabs at bottom of yoursupports,if and when they sink a bit ,just use a car jack to lift up ,then compensate height.,later on when you got time ,just put a flexable land drain400mm down,conect into nearest inspection chamber/manhole,this will help your high water table,which if not addressed,will cause big problems of damp air coming in through bottom vents,ect.

[white logan]

Hi Mark,just put 2x2 slabs at bottom of yoursupports,if and when they sink a bit ,just use a car jack to lift up ,then compensate height.,later on when you got time ,just put a flexable land drain400mm down,conect into nearest inspection chamber/manhole,this will help your high water table,which if not addressed,will cause big problems of damp air coming in through bottom vents,ect.

 

asha , i am realy dissapointed with you , you should have told him to burn his loft and bin his birds  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[greenlands]

Hi Mate my back garden's the same,least bit of rain and it's flooded,a wall either side of the garden and a tarmac footpath behind the lofts.I levelled it off with road chippings,layed 2x2 slabs and then railway sleepers on top,have a look at photo you'll get a rough idea.Click to enlarge.Lindsay C.

Sorry put wrong photo on,try next one.L.C.

 

[greenlands]

Here's the Photo I should have put on.Lindsay

[white logan]

Hi Mate my back garden's the same,least bit of rain and it's flooded,a wall either side of the garden and a tarmac footpath behind the lofts.I levelled it off with road chippings,layed 2x2 slabs and then railway sleepers on top,have a look at photo you'll get a rough idea.Click to enlarge.Lindsay C.

Sorry put wrong photo on,try next one.L.C.

 

i noticed you have washing hung out !, could your wife do mine for me please  8) and the birds look good as well  ;D ;D

[Roland]

Hi Mark,just put 2x2 slabs at bottom of yoursupports,if and when they sink a bit ,just use a car jack to lift up ,then compensate height.,later on when you got time ,just put a flexable land drain400mm down,conect into nearest inspection chamber/manhole,this will help your high water table,which if not addressed,will cause big problems of damp air coming in through bottom vents,ect.

 

Yep, and I say that a footing of gravel is the best drainage you will get - over a spread of course. And slabs would go nicely on top of gravel too.

[blaz]

mind and put a water proof membrane between loft and sleepers or blocks and loft it will stop any dampness traveling up to loft .

[Guest Owen]

I would mount the loft on sleepers and I would place paving slabs under the sleepers to level them up. Then when the time allows, you can put a 4" drainage pipe into a trench. The drainage pipe would take the water either to a soakaway or to the edge of your property and away.

The last thing you want is a damp pigeon loft. You would never keep them healthy. And you should make sure that the loft is built with a good gap under it, because you will enevitably get rats or mice sometime. If it is too close to the ground the rats will have no trouble getting in and you would have trouble getting a terrier or ferret under the loft to flush them out. Besides, the space under a loft lends itself to a useful storage area to keep things tidy.

[greenlands]

 

i noticed you have washing hung out !, could your wife do mine for me please  8) and the birds look good as well  ;D ;D

 

Wife went in 1983 threatened me,"pigeons go or I do",never gave her a chance to change her mind.

 

[mark proctor]

thankyou for all the replys lads and lasses..there was some great advice there.. ;) anthony12 of this site and joey007 of pigeon chat ,,and ere are helping put it up on wed so they will take all the credit as i have a bad back and will be watching... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D