Fair Play Posted November 16, 2009 Report Posted November 16, 2009 Years ago Glasgow Fed trained South now they train East plus one fancier passed the mark that all the power cables in East Lothian go into Cockenzie power station and St Boswells is the Bermuda Triangle of pigeon racing never been to either so couldn't possibly comment. These are comments from others
hotrod Posted November 16, 2009 Report Posted November 16, 2009 Not for a minute do i think these early race should be done away with.. just re - located.. Hotrod you said other points have been tried.. can you tell me where the race points were..?? yuou mentioned crawford ,we race from sanquhar , as for a little further east well if you want to got there you,ll be going your self , ask the southlanark boys ,do you know where they train east to northeast it the only way they can train and yet still they get skelped . take a drive down that neck of the woods and have a look for youself
Guest stb- Posted November 16, 2009 Report Posted November 16, 2009 Aye Stuart over the Forth heading for Fife yes you may well be further West but you have a "flat" run in to Port Glasgow we still have to negotiate the Kilpatrick hills and up the Leven Valley. Coming up the Campsies they would have to have a rocket up their ar*se to get a Fed position There were fanciers down your way who,s pigeons did have rockets up there arses and did win in a big glasgow fed in a northwest wind against the odds. look back your old results and you will see them. a lot of time and hard work on there part but it can be done ;)
hotrod Posted November 16, 2009 Report Posted November 16, 2009 Years ago Glasgow Fed trained South now they train East plus one fancier passed the mark that all the power cables in East Lothian go into Cockenzie power station and St Boswells is the Bermuda Triangle of pigeon racing never been to either so couldn't possibly comment. These are comments from others yes thats right tam there is a lot of pylons out that way but as you get to cockenzie its clear as a bell the pylons are southwest of cockenzie .and i do agree about the bermuda triangle ,but where do you race from ,or do you jump past that area.and get into even more strife ,are you losing birds from cocenzie ?
Guest JonesyBhoy Posted November 16, 2009 Report Posted November 16, 2009 I only mentioned Crawford as an instance to when we raced down the west. Somewhere of a similar distance, but further east in line with otterburn.. And ive been down that road 10 times in the past month.. i know it very well.. ive also been to Cockenzie, St.Boswells, Kelso and Otterburn
hotrod Posted November 16, 2009 Report Posted November 16, 2009 There were fanciers down your way who,s pigeons did have rockets up there arses and did win in a big glasgow fed in a northwest wind against the odds. look back your old results and you will see them. a lot of time and hard work on there part but it can be done ;) well then ask the fifers, the birds dont cross the forth there, they go west till they get to the bridge then they cross ,so they say anyway. i thought you stayed in the renton you have birds home before me and i give you overfly. sorry rab have replied to the wrong post .
hotrod Posted November 16, 2009 Report Posted November 16, 2009 I only mentioned Crawford as an instance to when we raced down the west. Somewhere of a similar distance, but further east in line with otterburn.. And ive been down that road 10 times in the past month.. i know it very well.. ive also been to Cockenzie, St.Boswells, Kelso and Otterburn and you still want to race from there? :-/
Guest JonesyBhoy Posted November 16, 2009 Report Posted November 16, 2009 Theres no avoiding all the dangers that meet the doos on their way home regardless of where you race or train.. Would just rather see the early race on a better line..
Guest stb- Posted November 16, 2009 Report Posted November 16, 2009 Theres no avoiding all the dangers that meet the doos on their way home regardless of where you race or train.. Would just rather see the early race on a better line..what would an early race on a different line do for your pigeons at a later stage??? :-/
Novice Posted November 16, 2009 Report Posted November 16, 2009 I don't have any problem with the old bird program as it stands but don't see the point flying from Cockenzie rather see them go down the same route as the o/b program and see if it makes any difference to the result or general performance of the birds. Where did all Lanarkshire's birds go and it it not true one of the Ayrshire Feds could not complete the program because of lack of birds. To be honest there are raptors all over the country and no area is exclusively free and without being derogatory to anyone change is opposed by those that have most to lose JMO The Ayrshire fed you are speaking of is Ballochmyle Federation. They flew a traditional east coast route program. They did not go straight accross. Ayrshire had good returns except when they raced from Lockerbie.
Guest JonesyBhoy Posted November 16, 2009 Report Posted November 16, 2009 I think for us in the west, you would hope when your doo crossed the border it starts heading west as soon as possible..
Guest stb- Posted November 16, 2009 Report Posted November 16, 2009 I think for us in the west, you would hope when your doo crossed the border it starts heading west as soon as possible.. and do you think by training them more westerly this will help you??
Fair Play Posted November 16, 2009 Report Posted November 16, 2009 STB I have the tickets to prove it but we trained and raced South and just last night at the club there were a pile of tickets belonging to the late John Mcguigan fed toppers most trained and raced South
Fair Play Posted November 16, 2009 Report Posted November 16, 2009 I think it was Graham Mitchell that posted that information could be wrong but then again could be right
hotrod Posted November 16, 2009 Report Posted November 16, 2009 STB I have the tickets to prove it but we trained and raced South and just last night at the club there were a pile of tickets belonging to the late John Mcguigan fed toppers most trained and raced South tam jack was a great pigeon fancier was he not IS THERE ANYONE AS GOOD IN YOUR AREA NOW ?
Guest stb- Posted November 16, 2009 Report Posted November 16, 2009 STB I have the tickets to prove it but we trained and raced South and just last night at the club there were a pile of tickets belonging to the late John Mcguigan fed toppers most trained and raced South Mcgougan dolan and grey would have won from any direction and any wind in there hayday even from cockenzie
Guest JonesyBhoy Posted November 16, 2009 Report Posted November 16, 2009 Is there anyone as good in your area Hotrod..??
Novice Posted November 16, 2009 Report Posted November 16, 2009 I think it was Graham Mitchell that posted that information could be wrong but then again could be right If you mean about not completing the program then yes it was Graham who posted it. He is in Ballochmyle.
alec guinness Posted November 16, 2009 Report Posted November 16, 2009 STB I have the tickets to prove it but we trained and raced South and just last night at the club there were a pile of tickets belonging to the late John Mcguigan fed toppers most trained and raced South yep raced against jack in the 70s 80s and 90s and boy could he race the doos,and yes we trained and raced south but times have changed and so must we as fanciers and make sure that every effort is made for a good start to the racing old and youngbirds. :) ;)
Fair Play Posted November 16, 2009 Report Posted November 16, 2009 Aye but they trained and raced South on the West coast but I suppose that was before the explosion of the raptor The 'Gow,Abington & Beattock were the training tosses every Wednesday that was when Del Boy flew in the Glasgow Fed East section don't remember them flying from Cockenzie will ask John D when I see him
hotrod Posted November 16, 2009 Report Posted November 16, 2009 Is there anyone as good in your area Hotrod..??as good as jack?
Guest stb- Posted November 16, 2009 Report Posted November 16, 2009 said they would have won even from cockenzie if they raced there,
Guest frank dooman Posted November 16, 2009 Report Posted November 16, 2009 Is there anyone as good in your area Hotrod..?? i dont know the guy yous are talking about but i do know hotrod and he is one of the rare fanciers that would win where ever you put him he is the furtherst west fancier to win a nat (exept for Mr D avidson) but very different circumstances hotrods was in a very strong west wind i dont know the weather cond. when Leslie won it so yes i think hotrod is of the same class or better
hotrod Posted November 16, 2009 Report Posted November 16, 2009 Yeah.. probably not as he was a great fancier from 1st race to last.
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