Speckled Jim Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Anyone tried this GPS system out yet, or know of anyone who has got it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bakes Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Anyone tried this GPS system out yet, or know of anyone who has got it? im very intersted in this piece of kit but at £125 im a bit up and down on the idear as if the bird you got it on gets lost or taken down by hawk you throwing 125 pounds down the pan a few videos all the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ROCKYandRAMBO Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 least you will know where he is lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speckled Jim Posted November 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 I think you can only download info once bird is home, if it doesnt arrive then yes ya moneys gone...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novice Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 The battery also has a limited life. Only a few hours so no use for longer distances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holmsidelofts Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Theres another type of one for sale on ebay at £55 new, maybe worth a gamble check out the link below: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ML7-S-Worlds-Smallest-GPS-Datalogger-Pigeon-Racing_W0QQitemZ260502715400QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_AudioTVElectronics_GPSSystems_GPSSystems?hash=item3ca72bfc08#ht_2203wt_1167 Jas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeonforce Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Theres another type of one for sale on ebay at £55 new, maybe worth a gamble check out the link below: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ML7-S-Worlds-Smallest-GPS-Datalogger-Pigeon-Racing_W0QQitemZ260502715400QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_AudioTVElectronics_GPSSystems_GPSSystems?hash=item3ca72bfc08#ht_2203wt_1167 Jas. Im going to order the one from ebay so ill let you know how it goes , from what i can gather there both the same just different prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeonforce Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Im going to order the one from ebay so ill let you know how it goes , from what i can gather there both the same just different prices. Sorry my mistake the one on Ebay records every 3 minutes and the Gem one every 3 seconds, both very good though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speckled Jim Posted November 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 With the speeds a pigeon can travel and distance its covering alot can happen in 3 Minutes, I would prefer to get the unit that records every 3 seconds to get a better look at whats going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally mac Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 I would love to see the route the birds take coming to me through the mountains etc. Just a bit to much money to lose. Im sure they will get cheaper right enough. Also think every 3 minutes would be fine, would give a good indication over the longer distances. Al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meridklt Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 The Gem GPS records every single second, not 3. Whilst the 3 minute one is similar, but as the other poster said, the bird covers a whole lot of ground in that 3 minutes and this will be missed. Also the GEM GPS has software that is totally different to the 3 minute job and Brian's allows a vast number of different Google Earth display options. Plus he has a help phone number if needed and it comes with a detailed instruction booklet that covers everything from installing to running it. Brian's films are here: (allow time to download) http://www.gemsupplements.com/gps/gpsfilm01.wmv http://www.gemsupplements.com/gps/gpsfilm02.wmv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speckled Jim Posted November 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 Yes I would have to agree, Gem Products package looks alot better, cheapers not always best and with new technology like this some support you can call or email that will reply will probably come in handy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thimbles Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 do you have to wait till the birds home to read the data Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meridklt Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 Thimbles wrote: do you have to wait till the birds home to read the data Yes you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thimbles Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 Yes you do. Not much use if the bird gets lost or eaten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just ask me Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 ordered it off gem had to admit i had problems getting it going but the first class customer service that Gem have going is a credit to them the guy who deals with the computer side of things cant remember his name has patience of a saint one satisfied customer here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thimbles Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 how does itfit to the bird it lookstoo big for the leg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bakes Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 fits on around the wings and sits on the pigeons chest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thimbles Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 is it hawk friendly what i mean is if the hawk eat it would it die and would i be prosecuted if its found out a hawk choked on a gps system that i fitted to my pigeon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeonforce Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 Had a search on google they are loads at various prices from £30 - £700 all do same job just different loggin times and battery life , After looking at what you get software wise GEM is the best option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony C Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 Worth a look http://www.pigeongps.com/index-en.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holmsidelofts Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 Worth a look http://www.pigeongps.com/index-en.htm This i believe was the start of the gps system, this is where gem got there ideas from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teekay_tk Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Hello All Yes. Actually the device hardware is made in Taiwan by a company called Sanav. The real name is ML-7 (for every second log) and ML7-S ( for 3 minute logs) . Both GEM and PATHFINDER take these devices, add thier own software and harness and sell it on. I sell the bare 3-minute devices for £55 on ebay. It comes with standard software (not the fancy stuff) but you do get google map tracks with the standard software in a basic way. For a small charge of £20 I can change the device to any time interval from 1 minute to 5 minutes and more (but who would want more?) . Plus I can also convert this to a fully waterproof version with magnetic switch and epoxy potting for another £50. I am now investigating on making them solar rechargable for longer life (using the best solar cell available commercially) This will decrease the logger weight by another 3-4 grams because then we can use a smaller battery. How important is GPS for pigeon racing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teekay_tk Posted December 25, 2009 Report Share Posted December 25, 2009 Sorry my mistake the one on Ebay records every 3 minutes and the Gem one every 3 seconds, both very good though There is one now at 1 minute record and 30 hours life. Should help for longer logging http://tinyurl.com/yd5my9n Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidbart Posted December 25, 2009 Report Share Posted December 25, 2009 The Gem-GPS is every 1 second, not 3 seconds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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