Cortisone

[Guest Paulo]

Heard this can be used to cheat in pigeon racing hows that work? In boxing cortisone was sometimes injected into fighters hands who had hand problems to supress the pain but I thought pigeons nervous systems were different from ours?

 

Just curious?

[Roland]

Been a few years back now that Cortisone was used prevalently.

The Begiums had to clean their at up big time because A. their name was beginnng to stick... and they were finding increasingly more difficult to sell.

Had way over a 100 names scouged by the Aurthorities... but they were never prosecuted... just made many clean their act up. Cortisone  mostly preserves the Condition the bird is in at the time of use.

Now too many just buy the rings and sell as 'Directs'  Seen some big names on that list too.... Believe that that will hit the fans soon, /// after they have packed it up like.

[Guest Paulo]

Thanks Roland

[ribble]

cortisone stops the birds moulting it's also an anti inflammatory meaning pigeons on it will fly longer without getting sore.it is also a mood altering drug making pigeons fly for fun.

but in time your birds will be goosed.

[Roland]

Ribble, Cortisone is a type of steroid that is produced naturally by a gland in your body called the adrenal gland. Cortisone is released from the adrenal gland when your body is under stress. Natural cortisone is released into the blood stream and is relatively short-acting.  Now BNBNB Injectable cortisone is synthetically produced and has many different trade names (e.g. Celestone, Kenalog, etc.), but is a close derivative of a human's body's own product. The most significant differences are that synthetic cortisone is not injected into the blood stream, but into a particular area of inflammation. Also, the synthetic cortisone is designed to act more potently and for a longer period of time (days instead of minutes).

Injectable cortisone is synthetically produced and has many different trade names (e.g. Celestone, Kenalog, etc.), but is a close derivative of your body's own product. The most significant differences are that synthetic cortisone is not injected into the blood stream, but into a particular area of inflammation. Also, the synthetic cortisone is designed to act more potently and for a longer period of time (days instead of minutes).

How does the cortisone injection help?

Cortisone is a powerful anti-inflammatory medication. Cortisone is not a pain relieving medication, it only treats the inflammation. When pain is decreased from cortisone it is because the inflammation is diminished. By injecting the cortisone into a particular area of inflammation, very high concentrations of the medication can be given while keeping potential side-effects to a minimum. Cortisone injections usually works within a few days, and the effects can last up to several weeks There side effects though, Probably the most common side-effect is a 'cortisone flare,' a condition where the injected cortisone crystallizes and can cause a brief period of pain This usually lasts a day or two and is best treated by icing the injected area. Another common side-effect is whitening of the skin where the injection is given Other side-effects of cortisone injections, although rare, can be quite serious. The most concerning is infection, especially if the injection is given into a joint. The best prevention is careful injection technique, with sterilization of the skin using iodine and/or alcohol. Also, patients with diabetes may have a transient increase in their blood sugar which they should watch for closely. Because cortisone is a naturally occurring substance, true allergic responses to the injected substance do not occur. However, it is possible to be allergic to other aspects of the injection, most commonly the betadine if any sterilize of the skin.

Seems that off spring can also start having detrimental effects though.

 

[Roland]

But I read this once and thought it pretty useful ... and then I try to relate Human to our pigeons. It helps re - instate my personal view of never , giving, or have, nor ever will give an thing not natural, unless it is a help needed situation.

http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/steroids.htm

[ribble]

Ribble, Cortisone is a type of steroid that is produced naturally by a gland in your body called the adrenal gland. Cortisone is released from the adrenal gland when your body is under stress. Natural cortisone is released into the blood stream and is relatively short-acting.  Now BNBNB Injectable cortisone is synthetically produced and has many different trade names (e.g. Celestone, Kenalog, etc.), but is a close derivative of a human's body's own product. The most significant differences are that synthetic cortisone is not injected into the blood stream, but into a particular area of inflammation. Also, the synthetic cortisone is designed to act more potently and for a longer period of time (days instead of minutes).

Injectable cortisone is synthetically produced and has many different trade names (e.g. Celestone, Kenalog, etc.), but is a close derivative of your body's own product. The most significant differences are that synthetic cortisone is not injected into the blood stream, but into a particular area of inflammation. Also, the synthetic cortisone is designed to act more potently and for a longer period of time (days instead of minutes).

How does the cortisone injection help?

Cortisone is a powerful anti-inflammatory medication. Cortisone is not a pain relieving medication, it only treats the inflammation. When pain is decreased from cortisone it is because the inflammation is diminished. By injecting the cortisone into a particular area of inflammation, very high concentrations of the medication can be given while keeping potential side-effects to a minimum. Cortisone injections usually works within a few days, and the effects can last up to several weeks There side effects though, Probably the most common side-effect is a 'cortisone flare,' a condition where the injected cortisone crystallizes and can cause a brief period of pain This usually lasts a day or two and is best treated by icing the injected area. Another common side-effect is whitening of the skin where the injection is given Other side-effects of cortisone injections, although rare, can be quite serious. The most concerning is infection, especially if the injection is given into a joint. The best prevention is careful injection technique, with sterilization of the skin using iodine and/or alcohol. Also, patients with diabetes may have a transient increase in their blood sugar which they should watch for closely. Because cortisone is a naturally occurring substance, true allergic responses to the injected substance do not occur. However, it is possible to be allergic to other aspects of the injection, most commonly the betadine if any sterilize of the skin.

Seems that off spring can also start having detrimental effects though.

can't for the life of me understand why you have addressed the above post to me.

all i did was post some info from DR colin walkers book,the flying vets pigeon health management.

also they give it by way of eye drops.

 

 

[Roland]

Because you are special lol Ribble... But I was pointing out to whoever read that statement that there was and is a lot more to it than just what you posted. Not personally to just you ... Golly you'll have us Curteosy you next lol.

[gangster]

1st time i ever came across this was in a very well known belgium fanciers , i mr dumb as expletive removed* asked what it was and i quote cortisone many english men come to buy from me this was in 1995 , my opinion if you need to cheat get the expletive removed* out of this sport coz youre only ruining it for the rest of us guenuine flyers...mick > > > >:(           ps  you still cantmake a donkey into a race horse........

[Guest TAMMY_1]

cortisone stops the birds moulting it's also an anti inflammatory meaning pigeons on it will fly longer without getting sore.it is also a mood altering drug making pigeons fly for fun.

but in time your birds will be goosed.

 

IF I TAKE THIS RIBBLE WILL IT ALTER MY MOOD ?

YEARS AGO I HAD TO GET CORTISONE INJECTIONS FOR TENNIS ELBOW AND THE PAIN WHEN THEY INJECT YOU WITH THAT BIG NEEDLE AND THEY TWIST IT ROUND ABOUT ID RATHER BE PALS WITH HOMER49 THEN AGAIN MAYBE NO

[Roland]

Was, and still is used of course is Coffee beans etc. etc. But I can't or wouldn't slant hat... it is somewhat natural. But that is only any good if taken in the morning of Liberation... hence not much use to the majority of the British flyers.

I too have have the Jabs for Both Tennis and Golf elbows... not much good really as soon went back Acupuncher next a bit better ... But found that twisting exercises under hot water worked a treat. So still do them as soon as a slight ache there.

[mark]

does winning a piece of silver mean that much jesus the length some people go to injecting them. i thouht it was supposed to be a sport.

[Guest shadow]

Leave well alone if you want to race a bird over its natural life span

[Guest Paulo]

Just for the record people have no intention of using it was just curious about how it is used for pigeons as have come across it in boxing before being injected into fighters hands so seeing as pigeons are different from us wondered how it worked.

 

Thanks for your information everybody

[collect500]

have a thought that i have read somewhere that cortisone is a banned substance for our birds  i could be wrong

[andyb]

i,m another who had injections when i was younger. not nice and can have serious side effects. if you cannot enjoy your pigeons without it then pack up

[Wiley]

yea collect is a banned substance,i read somewhere in this post coffee beans do something simular,what sort of effect is it supposed to give them is it the caffene cos ive heard fanciers using red bull in there drinkers to water unless they were giving me a load of red bull

[Roland]

No good if they have the night before and act al het up wit st. Vitus dance etc. through the night and wanna sleep when the traps are open.

[Guest Paulo]

caffeine is toxic to some animals as well

[jimmy white]

Leave well alone if you want to race a bird over its natural life span

 

yes common sense prevails   

[soontjen]

how do they give this cortisone to the pigeons is it injected into the bird or put into the drinking water and how would they know how much to give?

[billy wilson]

in the 90s the belgians used to put the drops of cortisone in the eyes of young birds it was to stop them moulting,then when they sold them at the back end of the seaon over hear most of them were infertile,

 

                                                 billy

[Wiley]

how do they give this cortisone to the pigeons is it injected into the bird or put into the drinking water and how would they know how much to give?

 

its illegal now

[gangster]

in the 90s the belgians used to put the drops of cortisone in the eyes of young birds it was to stop them moulting,then when they sold them at the back end of the seaon over hear most of them were infertile,

 

                                                 billy

 

very true billy....and whats more annoying some of these birds could have been superstars wasted by cheats.........ID LIKE TO STICK A NEEDLE FULL IN THERE ARSES SEE HOW THEY LIKED IT........TIME TO JACK IF YOU NEED 2 CHEAT..........

[Guest IB]

Was reading something in same vein a few years ago in the Gazette. Can't recall nationality, but guy admitted he doctored his birds with eye drops until it was made illegal over there.

 

Guy did nothing at the races for years afterwards until he started acting like a pigeon fancier and decided to get to the bottom of his poor performances - turned out his ventilation was crap. Fixed that, his performances without using drugs became better than they ever were with drugs. He admitted drugs use had just masked a problem in his loft for years.