YOUNG BIRD SICKNESS

[Guest GRIZZLE GRAHAM]

CAN YOUNG BIRDS THAT HAVE RECOVERED FROM YOUNG BIRD SICKNESS,STILL COMPETE WITH THE YOUNG BIRDS THAT HAVE NEVER HAD THE YOUNG BIRD SICKNESS,OR ARE THEY AT A SLIGHT DISADVANTAGE.

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CAN YOUNG BIRDS THAT HAVE RECOVERED FROM YOUNG BIRD SICKNESS,STILL COMPETE WITH THE YOUNG BIRDS THAT HAVE NEVER HAD THE YOUNG BIRD SICKNESS,OR ARE THEY AT A SLIGHT DISADVANTAGE.

 

I know load of people including myself that have had it most years and went on to win, but did not get it last year??

 

 

[Guest GRIZZLE GRAHAM]

 

I know load of people including myself that have had it most years and went on to win, but did not get it last year??

 

 

WHEN YOU HAVE HAD YOUNG BIRD SICKNESS IN THE PAST,DID YOUR BIRDS THAT NEVER GOT IT, BEAT THE ONES IN YOUR LOFT THAT DID HAVE IT,OR WAS THEY ALL ABOUT ON PAR WITH EACH OTHER ?

[Guest lenwadebob]

 

I know load of people including myself that have had it most years and went on to win, but did not get it last year??

 

 

What, if anything, did you do different last year, to prevent your birds getting YBS

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What, if anything, did you do different last year, to prevent your birds getting YBS

 

Birds were not on the darkness??? that’s the only thing I can think off, but I did not compete at the young bird racing with the darkness boys... I have also found that the symptoms get better year by year, or maybe it experience now, as soon as I see a bird retain corn, at night YBS is on its way..

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WHEN YOU HAVE HAD YOUNG BIRD SICKNESS IN THE PAST,DID YOUR BIRDS THAT NEVER GOT IT, BEAT THE ONES IN YOUR LOFT THAT DID HAVE IT,OR WAS THEY ALL ABOUT ON PAR WITH EACH OTHER ?

 

The first time I seen it was 2002, and the guys loft I was at , there were birds dying and it was the first race, all birds were like razors, He got told of nyfuamycin and treated for a week missing the seconed  race and took the first 4 in the Fed the 3rd race so I think they will over come it and race well. most that is

 

[Guest lenwadebob]

 

Birds were not on the darkness??? that’s the only thing I can think off, but I did not compete at the young bird racing with the darkness boys... I have also found that the symptoms get better year by year, or maybe it experience now, as soon as I see a bird retain corn, at night YBS is on its way..

 

What do you mean by retaining corn at night? Interesting observation Do you mean they have still got full crops and not digesting the food

[alex young]

CAN YOUNG BIRDS THAT HAVE RECOVERED FROM YOUNG BIRD SICKNESS,STILL COMPETE WITH THE YOUNG BIRDS THAT HAVE NEVER HAD THE YOUNG BIRD SICKNESS,OR ARE THEY AT A SLIGHT DISADVANTAGE.

 

We had a lad in our club who used to get YBS every year but was still the top prize winner in the fed. It was his opinion that the youngsters that got over it quickly where the ones that were topping the fed.

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What do you mean by retaining corn at night? Interesting observation Do you mean they have still got full crops and not digesting the food

 

 

Yea thats right  

 

[kirky]

give yogurt on the corn once a month and you wont get yb sickness.

[Guest GRIZZLE GRAHAM]

give yogurt on the corn once a month and you wont get yb sickness.

 

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[Guest Mav]

What are the symptoms of this YBS?. Please.

 

This is another new one on me.

[mark proctor]

 

THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR ADVISE ,APPRICIATE YOUR COMMENTS

 

you havent got it already have you graham m8,,,i would of thought its a bit early for it to show its ugly head,,,i get it every year ,,useally about june july time m8....

[kirky]

What are the symptoms of this YBS?. Please.

 

This is another new one on me.

ybs hold corn in there crops over night then bring it up next morning others eat it then thay do the same,

 

 

[mark proctor]

give yogurt on the corn once a month and you wont get yb sickness.

 

kirky tried that for the last 10 years m8,,3 times a week on the corn and in the water,,tried cider viniger ,,tried every thing there is to use in this country and still get it every year,,,and yes im very clean in my lofts before anyone says oat,,to clean i think thats the problem...jmo...

[Guest Mav]

I will know now and when it happerns what it is.

 

Thanks for your reply.

 

Mav.

[Guest lenwadebob]

 

kirky tried that for the last 10 years m8,,3 times a week on the corn and in the water,,tried cider viniger ,,tried every thing there is to use in this country and still get it every year,,,and yes im very clean in my lofts before anyone says oat,,to clean i think thats the problem...jmo...

 

I tend to agree, as I think a too clean lofts does not allow birds to build up an immune system. (I am not saying allow loft floors to become damp with droppings) but a dry loft with deep litter, to dry up the droppings, seem to have less problems with YBS than a loft that is spotless. Since I started back up 2 years ago, after a break of nearly seven years, I have only cleaned my loft floors out twice a year (perches and nest boxes weekly( and in those two years, I have never had a sign of YBS

[Guest kevin b]

ybs hold corn in there crops over night then bring it up next morning others eat it then thay do the same,

 

 

This could also be a bacterial infection of the crop.

The crop closes up preventing the food to pass through, then the body starts to eat its self up giving green watery droppings and eventually if not treated death. Nystatin is great for this and if seen early enough should sort out the problem before it goes too far.

 

 

 

Intresting point on clean verses deep litter in the loft, wonder how many on here have got ybs on the deep litter.

 

Kevin

[pigeonpete]

well to be honest, im not so clean on the ybs, they only get cleaned out once a week, till yb racing starts, i just dont have time, spending the time i do have on the o/bs. And touch wood, i dont think ive ever had it, had the odd bird go back, but never the whole lot.

 

a few of the top guys round here say they get it every year, And top the fed a fair few times, so they must come round :-)

[Guest kevin b]

well to be honest, im not so clean on the ybs, they only get cleaned out once a week, till yb racing starts, i just dont have time, spending the time i do have on the o/bs. And touch wood, i dont think ive ever had it, had the odd bird go back, but never the whole lot.

 

a few of the top guys round here say they get it every year, And top the fed a fair few times, so they must come round :-)

 

Also I think it depends on the severity of the actual sickness, if they get it every year has the flock a kind of ressistance to the worst of the effects build in to the immune system. I suppose if your used to getting it you can hit it at the start and minimise the worse effects as well.

 

 

kevin

[kirky]

my ybs are on deep litter all season, a new water bowl is put in for them at the start when weaned off it is never washed out only rinced does not matter if it goes brown or green as this will help build there immune system, you can be too clean that is a fact. also i do not use medications, my vet is mr wheeliebin.

[marmite]

havent had it last couple years  touch wood wont get it this year but ive found when i used to clean them out reguarly i get it but now i dont clean them at all till racings over i havent had it maybe thats the answer but who knows and i just use cider vinegar 2 days a week  sun/mon but maybe ive just got lucky  atb clive

[Guest joshdonlan]

ive been told the same not too clean to much, just scrape boxes and perches and keep them on deep litter.

 

Also heard Aad Schaerlackens say that when he had it he let it run its cause and kill the weak off, after a couple of seasons of this, he said he hasnt had it since, so obviously built up immunity. I suppose this is ok if you have enough birds to do it  :-/

[Guest kevin b]

ive been told the same not too clean to much, just scrape boxes and perches and keep them on deep litter.

 

Also heard Aad Schaerlackens say that when he had it he let it run its cause and kill the weak off, after a couple of seasons of this, he said he hasnt had it since, so obviously built up immunity. I suppose this is ok if you have enough birds to do it  :-/

 

Depends how bad it is Josh,

Break your heart to watch your babies die around your feet, how are you to build up a team if all your young birds are dead.

 

Just watch them very close and if your not sure get hold of a vet.

 

The sooner you spot something amiss the quicker you can react.

 

Kevin

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Depends how bad it is Josh,

Break your heart to watch your babies die around your feet, how are you to build up a team if all your young birds are dead.

 

Just watch them very close and if your not sure get hold of a vet.

 

The sooner you spot something amiss the quicker you can react.

 

Kevin

 

 

Agree 100% Kev  , as I said I could have watched a top flyers birds die , he treated and won the fed averages for the following 3 years....