Liquid brewers yeast

[Hogni]

Since a certain company has said no to shipping pigeon products to Iceland i started to look where i could get some of the stuff i have been using for the past few years.The product i was most interested in getting and in my opinion one of the most important is brewers yeast.

 

The only thing i could find here in Iceland was liquid brewers yeast, which i can get as much of as i need and for free,

i went today to pick it up for the first time to see what it looks like and if i could use it, now i have always used the dry powder type so i am not sure if this is exactly the same stuff, so i was wondering if someone has used this and could tell me what it should look and feel like and what it should smell like.

[OLDYELLOW]

is the yeast still active and has it been vitamised or just the waiste product from brewing ?

[Hogni]

i guess it is just the waste product but i´m not really sure

[OLDYELLOW]

well best way would be to get it analized by a lab and check it against a similar pigeon product but pretty much same stuff may lack the vitamins tho

[Hogni]

this liquid stuff smells like beer, does it have alcohol in it?? it is from a brewery but i guess my mistake was not to ask more about it.

 

After i smelled it i´m not sure about feeding it to the birds so i thought of asking if someone has used it,

[jacksafc]

Isnt liquidised brewers yeast sold under another banner, is it zell.

[OLDYELLOW]

brewers yeast is from the waste product from brewing its how its processed after that counts if the yeast is still active it could damage the birds natural ballance by upseting the gut flora rather than working with it and may cause canker to flourish after all its a yeast type infection

[Hogni]

ok thank you for your good answers Oldyellow, would you happen to know if there is a way  for me to process it into the very useful stuff i have been feeding my birds or should i just bin it and start looking again?

[OLDYELLOW]

well im sure the yeast would stop working once dry so if you added to your corn and added some other vitamins you could be on the right track let it dry out for a few hours so mix morning feed at night and night feed in morning  so plenty of time to dry out before giving them it just keep an eye on birds  

[Back garden fancier]

I think Gem Thepax is based on yeast, I used it last season but stopped because my birds had a yeast infection!

 

Stick to cider vinegar, it keeps the digestive system slightly on the acid side which means the good bugs flourish.

[OLDYELLOW]

i use the vitaminized brewers yeast powder with no adverse effects birds are checked on a regular bases to ensure good health , probably one of the best vitamin supliment with essential amino acids and one of the cheapest in my opinion

[pigeonboyuk]

brewers yeast is from the waste product from brewing its how its processed after that counts if the yeast is still active it could damage the birds natural ballance by upseting the gut flora rather than working with it and may cause canker to flourish after all its a yeast type infection

you can buy de-activated yeast called nutritional yeast and can be bought from all good health stores in a powder or dried flake format, most good brands will contain active amino acids and vitamins as part of its biological make-up so you needn't add any more vitamis to the birds diet because it will only sh** it out or worse store certain vitamins in the liver until it makes the bird ill or kills it.  

 

[OLDYELLOW]

in  hognis case hes got what appears to be brewers yeast from the end process of brewing in the brewing trade its called sediment , which i imagine has no added vitamins otherwise beer would be healthy

[pigeonboyuk]

yup its called a top-fermenting yeast or Saccharomyces cerevisiae, known to brewers as ale yeast.  Not wise to use it as its live and will as you said cause a lot of problems for the bird, good advice from you oldyellow.  

[OLDYELLOW]

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[Ian Gill]

is the yeast still active and has it been vitamised or just the waiste product from brewing ?

 

What are you on about old yellow?? Brewers yeast is the source of more vitamins etc etc than any other thing known to man !!

 

 

[OLDYELLOW]

 

What are you on about old yellow?? Brewers yeast is the source of more vitamins etc etc than any other thing known to man !!

 

 

read you will find the answer , the brewer yeast hogni has is from the end process of brewing infact its sediment so may still be active

[les]

a top fancier in belgum uses it he adds 1 t spoon to 1 liter in the drinking water 1 a week  .im trying to get it and will be using it .

[OLDYELLOW]

Brewers Yeast

Brewers Yeast is known as nature’s wonder food, a name that it certainly deserves.  It is an excellent source of all the major B vitamins (except B12).  It also contains other vitamins, sixteen amino acids and fourteen or more minerals.

 

The Benefits of Brewers Yeast

 

Sleep – It has been shown to help people having difficulty sleeping.  This is due to the Niacin and Vitamin B6 present in the yeast, which work together to produce the brain chemical seratonin, which is essential for restful sleep.

 

Fatigue – It has been shown to help people who feel fatigued, since many of the B group vitamins present are essential in the release of energy from the carbohydrates in the food we consume.

 

Diarrhoea – It has been used to treat diarrhoea caused by Clostridium difficile.

 

Properties

 

Brewers yeast contains many different vitamins, minerals and amino acids.  The major vitamins are:-

 

Vitamin B1 (thiamin) – releases energy from carbohydrate in the diet, and is important for the heart and nervous system.

 

Vitamin B2 (riboflavin) – releases energy from carbohydrate in the diet, and maintains healthy skin, eyes and digestive tract.

 

Niacin (Vitamin B3) – releases energy from carbohydrate, and helps to maintain healthy skin, digestive tract and nervous system.

 

Brewer's yeast (also known as brewers yeast or brewing yeast) can mean any live yeast used in brewing. It can also mean yeast obtained as a by-product of brewing, dried and killed, and used as a dietary supplement for its B vitamin content , as not killed it could be harmfull and as a wet product the concentration of vitamins will de reduced unlike the dried variety

 

[pigeonboyuk]

 

What are you on about old yellow?? Brewers yeast is the source of more vitamins etc etc than any other thing known to man !!

 

 

rubbish, brewers yeast is good but it is no way the best source known to man, where did you get that crap from Ian?   and c'mon, dont beat up on oldyellow like that, he is only trying to help and hes not misleading anyone with his knowledge or findings so give him a break why dont you.   :-/

[Guest IB]

I don't use brewer's yeast, but I have always understood it to be live yeast, the unadulterated stuff that starts the brewing process, rather than something 'additional' from the process itself.

 

I also note that one member's experience was that it caused a yeast overgrowth, but it is more likely that the bird already had a yeast overgrowth and giving brewers yeast only made it worse. Writers have warned that you do not give 'yeast on yeast'.

 

This web address gives the basics:-

 

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-brewers-yeast.htm

 

Hogni's question: White Labs advertise a liquid Brewers Yeast. It is identical to the powder stuff, added to start the process, and doesn't come from it.

 

http://www.whitelabs.com/beer/craft_FAQ.html

 

Scroll down to ‘Why should I use liquid yeast as opposed to dry yeast?’

 

It’s quite an interesting site because it suggests that brewers yeast is used over and over again, and can become contaminated with other yeasts. Again, don’t use the stuff, so it’s new info to me, and the other info also suggests it doesn’t contain B12.

 

[REDCHEQHEN]

the other info also suggests it doesn’t contain B12.

 

it doesn't contain B12

But I don't think anybody said it does - it contains B1 B2 and B6 - or atleast the one I've got does

[pigeonboyuk]

 

it doesn't contain B12

But I don't think anybody said it does - it contains B1 B2 and B6 - or atleast the one I've got does

  your right, B12 is one of the few B vits it doesn't have in its compound.  there can be trace elements but rule is that this is one vit B brewers yeast lacks.  

 

B12 is also known as stress B vit, and is great for the nervous system, so it won't hurt giving this to the birds in v.small doses.

 

 

[Guest IB]

 

it doesn't contain B12

But I don't think anybody said it does - it contains B1 B2 and B6 - or atleast the one I've got does

 

 

Obviously not in this thread, but in previous ones. The link gives the last discussion on B12 sources, brewers yeast was mentioned as a source in that, and within that thread is another link to an earlier discussion on B12 with another couple of mentions of brewers yeast being a source for it. So some folk obviously think its doing something for their pigeons that its not.

 

http://forum.pigeonbasics.com/m-1222212348/s-9/highlight-b12/#num9

 

[walterbmasson]

 

 

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      

hogni go down to whitelink factory see the lorry driver to see kenny henry there fish salesman in fraserburgh i think the boss in factory is andrew sutherland iam sure there would be no problem getting in fact i could look into it at this end if that is all right i will post price tuesday next week dont experiment with unsutible feed