david Posted December 28, 2007 Report Posted December 28, 2007 Hi all..just got a digital microscope for christmas and was wondering if anyone could give me some information on what they are seeing on these images ...i have some probs with my birds at the moment so any knowledge anyone can give me on these slides would be the business... DAVID
Guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Posted January 2, 2008 hard to say from the images but i think cocci is there for sure most of it is just air bubbles and debrie
david Posted January 2, 2008 Author Report Posted January 2, 2008 Thankyou frankie for your input..i have had this topic posted since before the boar war and it seems you are the only person interested.am i the only bugger on this site with a microscope?????cheers johnny11 for looking at my P.M.. DAVID
DOVEScot Posted January 2, 2008 Report Posted January 2, 2008 Thankyou frankie for your input..i have had this topic posted since before the boar war and it seems you are the only person interested.am i the only bugger on this site with a microscope?????cheers johnny11 for looking at my P.M.. DAVID Not something I am interested in but there are others on the site who are :-/ http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/blah/m-1137449671/s-113/highlight-microscope/#num113
chickadee Posted January 2, 2008 Report Posted January 2, 2008 Thankyou frankie for your input..i have had this topic posted since before the boar war and it seems you are the only person interested.am i the only bugger on this site with a microscope?????cheers johnny11 for looking at my P.M.. DAVID No I have one but just havnae used it yet. ;D ;D
Guest Posted January 3, 2008 Report Posted January 3, 2008 takes years to get it right iam still learning with the help of people like rod adams try buying the book fit to win wim peters good info in it
Wiley Posted January 3, 2008 Report Posted January 3, 2008 recieved your text while i was at work like frank said hard to tell but looks like a high count of cocci to me
THE FIFER Posted January 3, 2008 Report Posted January 3, 2008 yes very handy to have a microscope, and would be handy to learn, i have had one for a while and into my pc, but just been playing with it looking at this and that, but must try and get more into it,
REDCHEQHEN Posted January 3, 2008 Report Posted January 3, 2008 I would say - it is impossible to tell if there is anything wrong in or with the sample because there is no information provided - and I don't see how you can tell from those samples that there is any cocci in it The sample photos are not bright or clear enough to tell what if anything is there what magnification are you using? That is VERY important :-/
john robo Posted January 3, 2008 Report Posted January 3, 2008 I would say - it is impossible to tell if there is anything wrong in or with the sample because there is no information provided - and I don't see how you can tell from those samples that there is any cocci in it The sample photos are not bright or clear enough to tell what if anything is there what magnification are you using? That is VERY important :-/ found these pics on a site somewere. as redcheqhen says the magnification is important these pics are 400x the last pic i have no idea of the magnification
david Posted January 3, 2008 Author Report Posted January 3, 2008 Thankyou all,i realy appreciate your input ..thanks wiley for your help ...hope a text was not offending? I just cant get the picture any clearer and my microscope is supposed to be a good one ..will try some more pics on later and see if these are,nt any clearer ..red cheq hen,just moved birds to new loft and within a couple of days a few birds came down with one eye colds.i left these to clear up on their own and they did but then all birds started showing massive fluid loss in droppings ,left this to it,s own devices as well ...you guessed it?.. birds got sick and these slides i have shown was on day one of treatment ,that was five days ago .will post some more pics later. DAVID
REDCHEQHEN Posted January 3, 2008 Report Posted January 3, 2008 What is the magnification David? Is that exactly what you have seen - or is the image reduced in size from the original image ? If the image on here is the same as what you have seen and the magnification is 400 - then I wouldn't have thought it would be cocci - if the image is 100x - then it could be possible - do you have different coloured lights on your microscope - or a light filter? to reduce light getting through? you need to take the image with more light under the sample - you also need more light to look at the sample yourself I have about 8 different lighting variants on my microscope and tend to use the brightest - or with a slight blue tinge - also - how was the sample prepared - flotation - or just a mixed sample with water added (at a guess it looks like a flotation sample as you have no plant cells in the sample - which you WOULD see if you had just mixed the faeces with water - plant cells look like tyre treads)
Wiley Posted January 3, 2008 Report Posted January 3, 2008 Thankyou all,i realy appreciate your input ..thanks wiley for your help ...hope a text was not offending? I just cant get the picture any clearer and my microscope is supposed to be a good one ..will try some more pics on later and see if these are,nt any clearer ..red cheq hen,just moved birds to new loft and within a couple of days a few birds came down with one eye colds.i left these to clear up on their own and they did but then all birds started showing massive fluid loss in droppings ,left this to it,s own devices as well ...you guessed it?.. birds got sick and these slides i have shown was on day one of treatment ,that was five days ago .will post some more pics later. DAVID Nope was n ot offending just couldnt reply as i never have credit. These droppings did they have a smell about them? Did the droppings have any solidness at all?
david Posted January 5, 2008 Author Report Posted January 5, 2008 Hi again ,Ryan.....droppings no smell to them.. red cheq hen ..it appears my deck is moving and distorting the photograph when i take it.the light it seems i have managed to sort out and it apears i was using a very dark filter ..see what you think of these pictures..will tell you whats happening with birds after i get your opinion on these pics ..i feel i am getting quite confident at explaining what i m viewing on the microscope deck.. DAVID
david Posted January 5, 2008 Author Report Posted January 5, 2008 How you doing so far ? is the first image any clearer? DAVID
david Posted January 5, 2008 Author Report Posted January 5, 2008 I believe i am looking at roundworm ,hairworm,some cocci,bactria that bamboozles me at the moment and the last slide is a funny stick thing ,is this plant debris...?i am looking at these samples with the x40 objective and a bit more.. Please let me know what you think. DAVID
david Posted January 5, 2008 Author Report Posted January 5, 2008 and wont bore you anymore .This is the last one . Lots of room for improvement.thanks all DAVID
REDCHEQHEN Posted January 5, 2008 Report Posted January 5, 2008 Much better David ;D Yes you've got worms ;D Sometimes cell chambers with starch can be confused with cocci (last photo) For this to be cocci - magnification would be 400x - do you see why magnification is important? If the magnification is only 40x - it couldn't be cocci - because the image is too big I usually look at samples at 100x and 400x - cos the books I have got show these magnifications
REDCHEQHEN Posted January 5, 2008 Report Posted January 5, 2008 Taken from your 1st photo (second lot with better lighting) there is also a good worm egg - shaped like a lemon in the first photo
david Posted January 5, 2008 Author Report Posted January 5, 2008 hi red chequer hen.The images you see are 400x but on the lst one where you minimised the image i turned the magnification up bringing the image closer ,another 150 at least.i did not think this was cocci,as it was still bigger under the x 400 image than any other cocci i could see.i started to de -canker ,cocci my birds 5 days ago ...these organisms have dropped vastly in their numbers since then.i did not think my birds had worms until i went into my loft this morn,and found a dead round worm on the loft floor,this made sense to me as the sloppy droPpings still continue even after decanker,cocci,treatment...do you think they have a worm burden? i am seeing evidence of a few worms on the slides DAVID
REDCHEQHEN Posted January 5, 2008 Report Posted January 5, 2008 You need to worm your birds david I have also sent you a message
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