Bad Smell

[IrishFancier]

Hi all,

 

I had a pigeon(adult) who had a horrible smell of it and was huddled on the ground, i assumed it was sour crop. But know I have found two yb birds with the same symtoms. Any ideas lads to put my mind at rest asap?????

[schouwman71]

look at sour crop replies on this forum.

[HOMER49]

Hi all,

 

I had a pigeon(adult) who had a horrible smell of it and was huddled on the ground, i assumed it was sour crop. But know I have found two yb birds with the same symtoms. Any ideas lads to put my mind at rest asap?????

Hi

Almost certain they have crop canker A canker nodgel is lodged in the intestine passage way Give a spatrix tablet and 2 drops of baytril for 3 days

Cheers

Homer 49

 

 

[me]

Hi all,

 

I had a pigeon(adult) who had a horrible smell of it and was huddled on the ground, i assumed it was sour crop. But know I have found two yb birds with the same symtoms. Any ideas lads to put my mind at rest asap?????

 

 

Sorry you did'nt listen to me earlier!! Forget charcol and all that other crap! LOCK YOUR BIRDS UP.If they can't pick they are not picking up any poisons outside.Isolate the birds that are ill use milton or something similar in the water among the healthy birds AND GET SAMPLES TO YOUR VET AND TAKE SOME OF THE POORLY BIRDS.

 

Don't panic light feed multivits and don't take them on a 150 mile toss for the "nationals" for god sake.

 

[IrishFancier]

Hi

Almost certain they have crop canker A canker nodgel is lodged in the intestine passage way Give a spatrix tablet and 2 drops of baytril for 3 days

Cheers

Homer 49

 

 

Does crop canker give of a bad smelll??? How threatable is it and can it kill?????

 

[Dave A]

Trichomoniasis (pigeon canker) is the most

common disease of pigeons. Approximately 80

percent of pigeons are infected with this organism.

The organism is a microscopic flagellate classified as

a protozoan. Different strains, Trichomonas gallinae

or Trichomonas columbae , vary greatly in their

ability to cause disease. The disease occurs

worldwide in warm climates or during warm weather.

It may occur at any time of the year in commercial

squab operations. Adult pigeons frequently carry the

trichomonads without showing signs of disease.

When the adult pigeon is stressed, however, the

organisms may multiply profusely. A mild infection

can then turn into a serious condition. Stresses

include other diseases, parasitic infestations, or

overbreeding.

Affected pigeons in a loft may cease to feed,

become listless and ruffled in appearance, and lose

weight before death. Pigeons often have difficulty

when closing their mouths because of lesions in the

oral cavity. They drool and make repeated

swallowing movements. Watery eyes may be

apparent in birds with lesions located in the sinuses

or tissues around the eyes. Diarrhea, increased water

intake, and respiratory distress may be noted. Birds

may die suddenly due to suffocation if the lesion

blocks the opening of the trachea. The disease

becomes more severe in birds that are noticeably

emaciated. The thin weakened bird loses the

inclination to fly and will "take to the wing"

reluctantly.

Pigeons that are carriers often transmit

trichomonads to their young during feeding. The

disease is common in 10- to 24-day-old squabs. As a

method of feeding their young, pigeons regurgitate

the sloughed, fat laden cells lining the crop (crop

milk) into the oral cavity of the squabs. If squabs are

infected with only small numbers of the protozoan,

they may develop immunity which is maintained by

constant low-level exposure. If squabs are infected

with large numbers, a severe outbreak may occur and

endanger the entire young generation.

Lesions of canker are usually most extensive in

the mouth, pharynx, or esophagus but may occur at

other sites including the crop, proventriculus, or

sinuses. The infection is promoted by minor injuries

to these tissues. The spelts and awns from grains can

easily cause small lesions. The lesions first appear as

small, circumscribed, and elevated areas on the

surface of the oral mucosa. They may be surrounded

by a thin red zone. The lesions may increase in size

Pigeon Canker 2

and coalesce. The build-up of white to yellow/tan

caseous material may be sufficiently extensive to

partially or completely block the lumen of the

esophagus. Organisms may also enter the body

through the unhealed navel of squabs. In this form,

necrotic tumor-like swellings occur under the skin

adjacent to the navel. Lesions can spread to various

internal organs, particularly the liver. Large,

well-defined, and yellowish areas of hepatic necrosis

may be found on necropsy examination.

Typical signs and lesions are very suggestive of

the disease. Demonstration of large numbers of

organisms in the oral fluids is usually considered

enough evidence for diagnosis. The small plaques in

the mucosa should be differentiated from pox,

vitamin-A deficiency, or candidiasis.

Since the organism is transmitted from parent to

squab, every effort should be made to treat or remove

infected birds from the flock. If possible, depopulate

at regular intervals and thoroughly clean and disinfect

the premises.

In addition, the following preventive measures

should help: practice a high standard of sanitation at

all times; do not add birds to an established flock

since they may be carriers (if birds are added,

quarantine for 30 days); and provide a source of

clean, fresh water eliminating all sources of stagnant

water.

The antiprotozoal drugs which were used

successfully in treating this disease, such as

dimetridazole and metronidazole, have been removed

from the market. Experimentally, a number of drugs

are active against trichomonas infection. Use of 0.1%

copper sulfate (100 mg per 100 ml of drinking water),

0.5% hydrochloric acid or 0.02% mercuric chloride

(sublimate) is worth investigating. The optimum

time to treat breeding pairs is at the initiation of egg

production.

[Guest]

;D ;Dpit it in the bin more than likely be paratyphoid ,only help weak birds to recover never make a racing pigeon first hard race down it will go beleive me save ya cell time and money  ;D ;D

[REDCHEQHEN]

;D ;Dpit it in the bin more than likely be paratyphoid ,only help weak birds to recover never make a racing pigeon first hard race down it will go beleive me save ya cell time and money  ;D ;D

 

I don't think rollers and tipplers make very good racing pigeons anyway  

[Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS]

like dave a said canker is common in pigeons like colds are common in humans

[Guest]

 

I don't think rollers and tipplers make very good racing pigeons anyway  

 

dont matter what it is molly wont be any good even if its a streeter ;D ;D ;D :P

[Guest]

I've taken out banter posts + complaint.

[Guest]

Can you be more specific regarding the bad smell? Are you talking about the bird's droppings rather than its crop?

 

Think you'll find a bad smell from droppings could be e-coli.

[IrishFancier]

Its from the crop.I was told to get para-coli.Anybody use this