pigeon neck problems

[BLACK W F]

do not kill them  multi vit  birds for 7 days  keep them confined to loft clean loft and disinfect each day disinfect your feet when leaving loft  keep away from any other fanciers lofts or them

let  it run its corse some birds will die most will recover  once they have recovered  you can let them out a gain will most likely be 3 weeks   the birds will be o k  and if they are any good will race well next season  if its para you have  i had it 20 years ago in my y/bs and they flew well the following year and after winning fed ect  

alan

[Roland]

surely point is here if it para or not,i dont think it is.and why jab them 3 times when mine never had 1 and survived?

 

Great, but when you see it, or get it - which I hope you never do - you will say 'Wished... especially if it wipes the board with you. But everyone to their own. Though as a regulated rule, and Dafra rule I feel you shouldn't being advocating as such personally.

[german owls rock]

if u want just separate the pigeon and inject all the rest leave it for a while and make sure it has plenty of water. the same happen to one of my birmingham rollers and im happy to say she is still with us.

[Mixxy]

 

Great, but when you see it, or get it - which I hope you never do - you will say 'Wished... especially if it wipes the board with you. But everyone to their own. Though as a regulated rule, and Dafra rule I feel you shouldn't being advocating as such personally.

 

 

roland read my first post on here,i have had it thats why i feel i am qualified to comment unlike a lot of fanciers who think they know.never wiped the board,but my birds were very healthy which i believe helped along with them not being plastic (atrificially kept healthy with antibs etc).already sick unhealthy birds would not stand a chance as it does affect the digestion system but that can be overcome with healthy birds

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[BLACK W F]

when i had it after they where ok still had to jab them or would not have been allowed to race did not agree with it but had no other option regards jabing while they have it  would say a bit stupid as some will be affected worse than others and will die and some might need culling  so why waste your money as it serves no purpose do not think for one moment that because some show no signs that they have not got it they will all be affected let it run its corse  best of luck

[ChrisMaidment08]

gents i may be out of line here but reading this thread do any of you jab i  do apart from this year as all my youngsters are all round country with other flyers

[Mixxy]

chris i do my ybs in july time and had it beginning of june before the ybs were jabbed. also killed an old bird that showed symptons and had been jabbed

[invalidusername]

Be interesting to hear what the vet says, after which amar can consider best course of action.

[Guest amar]

i toke the bird to the vets today they toke a blood sample and injected the bird with sum anti biotics and told me to keep it seperate and feed by hand if i wanted to keep it it seems 2percent better than it was to start with they said they will have the result of wots rong with the bird in a few days

[Guest IB]

If you intend to race or show racing pigeons then Paramyxo vaccination is a legal requirement. No vaccination, then no racing or showing.

 

If you keep a few birds as a hobby, then you don't need to vaccinate them.

 

The current veterinary recommendation is that you vaccinate the young pigeon as early as possible; colombovac minimum age 3 weeks, nobilis minimum age 6? weeks. Personally I think 3 weeks too young [too easy to do damage] and 6 weeks about right.

 

 

[Guest shadow]

you can mess about curing birds for this and they will go down when raced or put under stress its not worth the hassle a friend of mine treated his then lost the lot that season good pigeons do not get ill in my opinion

[Guest]

amar how many pigeons do you have and have they started to drink more water

[ChrisMaidment08]

les phone

[DOVEScot]

If you intend to race or show racing pigeons then Paramyxo vaccination is a legal requirement. No vaccination, then no racing or showing.

 

If you keep a few birds as a hobby, then you don't need to vaccinate them.

 

The current veterinary recommendation is that you vaccinate the young pigeon as early as possible; colombovac minimum age 3 weeks, nobilis minimum age 6? weeks. Personally I think 3 weeks too young [too easy to do damage] and 6 weeks about right.

 

Not required for showing as far as I know, unless you mean showing racers definately not for the fancy breeds :-/

 

 

[pjc]

Its a defra requirement for showing all pigeons, fancy or not!

[DOVEScot]

Its a defra requirement for showing all pigeons, fancy or not!

 

Not at alot of shows I have been to, some fancy showers don't treat them at all, I know that for a fact :-/

[pjc]

it is a requirement and should be printed on entry forms but that doesn't meen they are vaccinated.

[doo.racer]

P M V is a problem that we have been seeing for over 20 years. The one and only time I had this trouble it was with a pigeon I bought at a clearance sale of a very well respected top fancier. Now some 8 years later I still have the bird at stock and he has produced several top birds to win from 500 plus miles. What I did was (with vets advice) to put him in a hutch 3ft x 2ft x 2ft with a thick bed of shavings and food and water. It takes tlc for 8 to 10 weeks but it will come out of it. The bird will be more prone to twiching when you get close to it so give it quietness. I now vaccinate all yb's at 3 weeks old. Many believe this also kick strarts the immune system. Interestingly I have not seen YB sickness either from that day to this. If you do end up having to dispose of birds then put my name down to provide a pair of younsters. I wish you well.

[Guest amar]

i have 24 pigeons in total there not racing 1s they west of england tumblers and rollers the rest of the pigeons are fine drinking normal

[Guest]

keep a eye on them and just try the oil for 2 days just to help the crop in case it is para and put the electrolights in the water so it will help them if it is taking hold and keep every thing clean dont go near the birds with the same shoes or clothes as you go to the sick bird in and dont forget to wash your hands after handiling the sick bird ,i know it is airborn if it is para but it will help to take precautions

[Guest IB]

Not required for showing as far as I know, unless you mean showing racers definately not for the fancy breeds :-/

 

 

I was asked a while back whether or not pmv vaccination was a voluntary code or a legal requirement. It's 'well hidden' but it is a legal requirement, and applies only to racing pigeons. Other members on the forum showing fancy breeds at that time confirmed they don't need to vaccinate these pigeons, and the Order is quite clear in what it means by a racing pigeon:-

 

 

 

Statutory Instrument 2003 No. 1078

Diseases of Poultry (England) Order 2003

 

Racing pigeons

 

"racing pigeon" means any pigeon transported or intended for transport from its pigeon house (any installation used for keeping or breeding racing pigeons) to be released so that it may freely fly back to its pigeon house or to any other destination.

 

12.

(1) An organiser of a show or race which takes place wholly or partly in England shall ensure that all racing pigeons entered for the race or show have been vaccinated against paramyxovirus 1 in pigeons.

 

(2) Every person who owns or keeps racing pigeons shall keep a record of every race or show for which he enters his pigeons.

 

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2003/20031078.htm

 

I say it is well hidden because once again its all about poultry catching a disease of poultry ... from racing pigeons.. Newcastle Disease and PMV are very similar, I think PMV is the 'pigeon equivalent' of Newcastle Disease, and is often referred to as PMV Type 1, 'pigeon variant'  

 

[Guest amar]

hi les im using the electrolights in the water and hand feeding the sick bird afta the sick bird has had a drink of water with electrolight mixd in it it seems a bit better for about 5 mins then it goes bck to same

[ChrisMaidment08]

it wont work in two minuits

[DOVEScot]

 

I was asked a while back whether or not pmv vaccination was a voluntary code or a legal requirement. It's 'well hidden' but it is a legal requirement, and applies only to racing pigeons. Other members on the forum showing fancy breeds at that time confirmed they don't need to vaccinate these pigeons, and the Order is quite clear in what it means by a racing pigeon:-

 

 

 

Statutory Instrument 2003 No. 1078

Diseases of Poultry (England) Order 2003

 

Racing pigeons

 

"racing pigeon" means any pigeon transported or intended for transport from its pigeon house (any installation used for keeping or breeding racing pigeons) to be released so that it may freely fly back to its pigeon house or to any other destination.

 

12.

(1) An organiser of a show or race which takes place wholly or partly in England shall ensure that all racing pigeons entered for the race or show have been vaccinated against paramyxovirus 1 in pigeons.

 

(2) Every person who owns or keeps racing pigeons shall keep a record of every race or show for which he enters his pigeons.

 

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2003/20031078.htm

 

I say it is well hidden because once again its all about poultry catching a disease of poultry ... from racing pigeons.. Newcastle Disease and PMV are very similar, I think PMV is the 'pigeon equivalent' of Newcastle Disease, and is often referred to as PMV Type 1, 'pigeon variant'  

 

I know well known and old hand show fanciers that don't treat for anything as we have bought some from them, we had to inject as soon as we got them as we inject all our birds even the ones in the cotes, they are done in October as it is easier to catch them when the dark nights set in

[Guest amar]

i nw it wont work in 2 minutes but after it has a drink of water it seems to shack his head less