Tony C Posted July 23, 2008 Report Posted July 23, 2008 http://www.poultryhealthcentre.com/mainpages/practice.htm Contact David Parsons
carlsberg Posted July 23, 2008 Report Posted July 23, 2008 thank you every1 that replyd i have put him in a box away from the other birds i,ll see wot the vets have to say about it tomarrow i will keep you informed of the out come just let us know the otcome
Guest amar Posted July 23, 2008 Report Posted July 23, 2008 i knew where that 1 is its about 5 mins from my house that is where i was planning of taking him i use them for my parrots
DOVEScot Posted July 23, 2008 Report Posted July 23, 2008 i knew where that 1 is its about 5 mins from my house that is where i was planning of taking him i use them for my parrots Best plan I think
Bluedoo Posted July 23, 2008 Report Posted July 23, 2008 the dropping are fine the bird was ok when i let them out in the morning i only noticed it when they came back in about an hour ago If the droppings really are fine, you should be able to pick one off the perch. Try another vet, you need more in depth testing.
Guest Posted July 23, 2008 Report Posted July 23, 2008 ive used Virkon ,s to disinfect the loft keep doin this and put some in a bucket and soak your feet every time you go to the birds ,
Guest Posted July 23, 2008 Report Posted July 23, 2008 hope you are still reading get some ground nut oil and put a quater of a t spoon down every birds throat every other day even the sick one there feathers will get all oily because they will shake their heads and get it on their feathers ,keep this up try and put all the ones that are ill together in one place ,dont kill any just let them die of their own acord ,get some electrolits and put it in the water keep it in the water untill they start to get beter not all will die and those that get over it will never get it again ,now all that are reading this i hope you are taking note with this remedie all is not lost just let it take its course ,.and next time get them injected .plus keep them on a small seed mix .ATB les.been there done it in my second year ,it wont happen to me again ,this remidy was in a book i read it worked for me ,the virus gets in through the crop that is what makes them start to drink a lot the oil coats the crop stoping the virus penertrating it hope it is not paramixo but if it is this will save a lot of the birds .good luck any questions just ask .
mac Posted July 23, 2008 Report Posted July 23, 2008 OFFICIAL REPORT and i quote from it hope it is helpful when you speak to your vet. signs of PARAMYXOVIRUS, such as watery diarrhoea, going round in cicles, loss of balance, difficulty in picking up food. in some cases mortality was as high as 80%. some lofts the young birds had been vaccinated against paramyxovirus but couldnt respond as they had already been infected by a secondary viral disease CICOVIRUS INFECTION Cicovirus is involved in some outbreaks of YOUNG BIRD SICKNESS. Circovirrus can only be diagnosed by carrying out a post mortem not part of thr standard post mortem. investigations carried out on 36 y/birds from 17 lofts suffering from a range of problems. results staggering. 27 of the thirty six birds, representing14 out of 17 lofts. Circovirus not only prevents the birds from fighting off other diseases. vaccinate birds as early as possible --from 3-4 weks if delayed the birds may first become infected with Circovirus, damaging their immine system will prevent them from responding to paramyxovirus vaccine
DOVEScot Posted July 23, 2008 Report Posted July 23, 2008 OFFICIAL REPORT and i quote from it hope it is helpful when you speak to your vet. signs of PARAMYXOVIRUS, such as watery diarrhoea, going round in cicles, loss of balance, difficulty in picking up food. in some cases mortality was as high as 80%. some lofts the young birds had been vaccinated against paramyxovirus but couldnt respond as they had already been infected by a secondary viral disease CICOVIRUS INFECTION Cicovirus is involved in some outbreaks of YOUNG BIRD SICKNESS. Circovirrus can only be diagnosed by carrying out a post mortem not part of thr standard post mortem. investigations carried out on 36 y/birds from 17 lofts suffering from a range of problems. results staggering. 27 of the thirty six birds, representing14 out of 17 lofts. Circovirus not only prevents the birds from fighting off other diseases. vaccinate birds as early as possible --from 3-4 weks if delayed the birds may first become infected with Circovirus, damaging their immine system will prevent them from responding to paramyxovirus vaccine But these are also signs of salmonella and meningitis as well :-/
mac Posted July 23, 2008 Report Posted July 23, 2008 dove scot ---- you are correct but the danger of the CIRCO VIRUS is that any other disease can not be treated as the immiune system is disabled.
ChrisMaidment08 Posted July 23, 2008 Report Posted July 23, 2008 night mare lets stop depressing each other but its invaluble advice for those who dont know so well done
Guest Posted July 23, 2008 Report Posted July 23, 2008 keep using the virkon s to wash the floor ,if the dropings get watery which they will with paro it is caused by the amount of water they will drink to stop the crop iretating them ,put sawdust on the floor to soak it up cleen out every day ,dont let them be with out water or more will die ,this is going to be a long and slow job hope you are up to it if not get some one to put them out of their misery ,it took me 7 weeks to get it all clear all depends how many birds you got ,because it will go through the lot some will just get watery dropings some will get the shakes and some will get the twisted neck those with twisted neck will have to be feed by puting peas soaked over night in water down their throats ,about 10 three times a day followed by a t spoon of water and electrolites you can see it is not going to be easy but it all depends on how mutch you like your birds .ATB les only give peas to the ones with twisted necks give seed to the others ,and dont forget give the ground nut oil every other day .
mac Posted July 23, 2008 Report Posted July 23, 2008 i know a person who has her immune system deliberately supressed after a transplant and now is in great danger of suffering from all sorts that would not be a problem to the rest of us Thats what the Cicovirus does disables the immune system.
ChrisMaidment08 Posted July 23, 2008 Report Posted July 23, 2008 yep les hard work and can hit us all even with the best of care and i know the care you take
DOVEScot Posted July 23, 2008 Report Posted July 23, 2008 dove scot ---- you are correct but the danger of the CIRCO VIRUS is that any other disease can not be treated as the immiune system is disabled. Circo virus is also carried by rabbits and guinnae pigs :-/
gangster Posted July 23, 2008 Report Posted July 23, 2008 sorry but id cull all the birds and disinfect the loft leave empty for at least a month before starting again...
Guest Posted July 23, 2008 Report Posted July 23, 2008 sorry but id cull all the birds and disinfect the loft leave empty for at least a month before starting again...he is not like us just remember he or she im not sure is just starting and will be very atached to the birds ,like i said it all depends on how mutch the birds mean .
ChrisMaidment08 Posted July 23, 2008 Report Posted July 23, 2008 yes true hope they do whats best for the birds not the vets canker treatment from vets is costly thats another one that makes them money canistan cream on cotton bud swab each bird works a treat for free get the wife to doctors antibiotics telldoc you have stomach prob for over a week amoxcellin put two caps intwo half lites
jimmy white Posted July 23, 2008 Report Posted July 23, 2008 sorry but id cull all the birds and disinfect the loft leave empty for at least a month before starting again... sorry, but best advice whether paramyxo or salmonella , sounds very hard,, but better in the long run
ChrisMaidment08 Posted July 24, 2008 Report Posted July 24, 2008 birds are not just pets but cant cant be left to suffer long term i went to fanciers house in bristlol who had two in cage in house they were a mess he thought he was helping them he was not its a bad thing to see or have
Mixxy Posted July 24, 2008 Report Posted July 24, 2008 i had para dont mind admitting it in the end i killed 2 birds thats all.the others became immune and never suffered from any side effects.floor was like a sea of sh** from day one though horrid smell.i would say more likely this bird has salmonella.
Roland Posted July 24, 2008 Report Posted July 24, 2008 Not too late to jab. most should be done at least twice, 3 times as youngsters. - This we discussed on here before - Personally I would remove, and treat all the others pronto. Bet your bottom dollar they all have, even if not showing signs yet.
Mixxy Posted July 24, 2008 Report Posted July 24, 2008 surely point is here if it para or not,i dont think it is.and why jab them 3 times when mine never had 1 and survived?
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