pjc Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 maybe its me but after any antibiotics aftercare should be advised or prescribed irrelevent of the test results also there are other precautions etc that should be advised while undergoing treatment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okitsme Posted April 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 I guess you are right and a good vet would have given advice. I just want this to be over and done with. The stress is killing me lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 I guess you are right and a good vet would have given advice. I just want this to be over and done with. The stress is killing me lol.is the bird drinking excess water ,that is one of the first things to look for if it is paramyxo ,because the crop gets irratated and it drinks to stop the irratation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjc Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 is the bird drinking excess water ,that is one of the first things to look for if it is paramyxo ,because the crop gets irratated and it drinks to stop the irratation. that would cause watery dropping but these are said to be firm. i suspect it could be somthing as simple as a scratch to its throat caused by a sharp piece of grain or grit etc . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okitsme Posted April 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 It does not drink more than normal and still eats. Only when its looking around does it twist its head. The droppings are firm. To me its odd that its the only one bird thats got it. If it is paramyxo it only has the one symptom of it and thats the twisting of its head. Also its a stock bird that got it and it has not been in contact with new birds for about six months now. It just seems strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just ask me Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 can u do a few tests with the bird close its beak with two fingers for 30 secs to a min and watch to see if it really opens its mouth to breathe also put your finger over its eye actually press your finger gently on one the eye its outer eye lid should open and cover the eye can u let me know what colour the outer eye lid is this may just rule out one or two things :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okitsme Posted April 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 Will do the tests tonight. Will need my flying partner to help with the colour check as I am colour blind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just ask me Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 well the outer eye lid realy dont come in different colous if u know what i mean i really dont want to tell u what im looking for as i dont want to put words in your mouth but it should look like when it comes out to cover the eye like glass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Owen Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 Well, there will be one good thing to come from this horrible situation. You will definately know what your birds have and have not got. And that is something positive to come from all this worry. Besides, you will learn a heck of a lot which will help you in the future. Like everybody else on this forum, my sympathies are with you. I hope you will tell us how all this ends up. Of course you could opt for the easy life and get shot of the pigeons and go in for computer games or possibly even bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 I had this with a cock, turned out he was blind in one eye, eventually he stopped doing it and never stopped him breeding ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okitsme Posted April 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 I was actually worried it could be something neurological as he comes from a very inbred family. Is that possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjc Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 I was actually worried it could be something neurological as he comes from a very inbred family. Is that possible? if it was i would have thought that you would have seen signs of this before now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest numpty01 Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 have look inits earhole you never know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 I was actually worried it could be something neurological as he comes from a very inbred family. Is that possible? :-/ i did have this with my De klaks,but it was worth the chance as they bred many winners,some use to tapdance ;)And still winning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okitsme Posted April 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 can u do a few tests with the bird close its beak with two fingers for 30 secs to a min and watch to see if it really opens its mouth to breathe also put your finger over its eye actually press your finger gently on one the eye its outer eye lid should open and cover the eye can u let me know what colour the outer eye lid is this may just rule out one or two things :-/ He breathes normal. Does not open his mouth to breath. Did not like the fact that beak was being held, lol. Also his eyelid is a light greyish colour and compared with the other pigeons is the same colour. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just ask me Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 He breathes normal. Does not open his mouth to breath. Did not like the fact that beak was being held, lol. Also his eyelid is a light greyish colour and compared with the other pigeons is the same colour. Hope this helps. well im stumped so :-/ with there eye lids being a bit grey all depends how grey it would say that there is some form of respretary really what u are looking for is for it too look like glass as a bird closes these when flying but he couldn't be too bad if his beak is staying closed after keeping it closed it means he is breathing ok usually with most major illness respiratory comes along with it could be something as simple as something caught in his throat or his throat scrathed some how will be interestesting when tests come back please let us know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okitsme Posted April 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 Thanks, will defo let everyone know what the tests reveal. Thanks everyone for your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just ask me Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 Thanks, will defo let everyone know what the tests reveal. Thanks everyone for your help. sorry i couldent help more kinda hard without seeing the bird to be honest the baytrill should keep anything at bay untill tests come back best of luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest numpty01 Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 check his lughole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okitsme Posted April 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 check his lughole Please excuse my ignorance but what is a "LUGHOLE"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest numpty01 Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 ear it could have infection the same as we get or mite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDCHEQHEN Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 Please excuse my ignorance but what is a "LUGHOLE"? (evil)(evil) Ear hole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okitsme Posted April 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 What would I actully be looking for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest numpty01 Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 pull feathers back see if anything it it or if its red ie sore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surrey Flyer Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 David, What avian vet did you take the birds too. Thanks Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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