stock birds problem

[thomasd]

i saw a stock bird hen in the stock loft i seen it couldnt walk something wrong with its feet it is swollen so i locked it up in a widowhood box so she can not walk on it and today thier another one the same what could this be

[pigeonpete]

Hi are they getting lots of grit and pick stones etc? could most probably be calcium defiency, esp if both hens? are they on eggs etc? or reared many ybs this year?

[pigeonpete]

any sharp objects they could have stood on?

[REDCHEQHEN]

It could be several things

what is swollen?

foot or toes (ring too tight?)

ankle? knee?

 

can't walk - or limping?

[Guest stb]

calcium def can put them of legs but dont normally cause swelling

[Guest strapper]

i saw a stock bird hen in the stock loft i seen it couldnt walk something wrong with its feet it is swollen so i locked it up in a widowhood box so she can not walk on it and today thier another one the same what could this be

 

 

best get them tested as this could be the start/signs of salmonela...hopefully not but dont wait ,get them to the vets.!!

 

 

[just ask me]

 

 

best get them tested as this could be the start/signs of salmonela...hopefully not but dont wait ,get them to the vets.!!

 

 

u are probally right i hope not   get them to vets as soon as possible as this can spread very quick  

[thomasd]

the 2 hens r limping and its thier feet they also reared 2 rounds and 1 round slip the eggs

[Guest numpty01]

swelling and lameness are signs of samonela get one tested fast also droping of one wing

[edwards]

check and see is there swelling on the joint of the wing mate not under neath but on top of the wing

[Guest shadow]

could also be gout

[thomasd]

no swelling on thier wings sometimes i give them peanuts when they r in the trap but when they see me with them they hank on the wires to get at the peanuts i hope it not samonela

[bobby j]

could be cutting feet when clime up the wire

[edwards]

if another bird gets this mate or the ones limping gets worse vet asap even now wounldn be a bad idea can you get a vet have you a microscope.

[thomasd]

hvent got a microscope ive never brough a pigeon to the vets before but were i am they know how to bill u i might get a microscope so i can check my pigeons myself is it easy to check your yoursef

[Guest numpty01]

straight answer no go find long time fancier ask him for his advice

[just ask me]

its really hard for people to answer over the forum with out seeing how the bird is acting as a lot of ailments have the same symptoms

[REDCHEQHEN]

There is no way you could check for salmonella - even with a microscope - the best you can see with regards to bacteria is an imbalance in the bacteria

 

unless you can do cultures and stains

[Guest Freebird]

i saw a stock bird hen in the stock loft i seen it couldnt walk something wrong with its feet it is swollen so i locked it up in a widowhood box so she can not walk on it and today thier another one the same what could this be

Any marks or wounds on the feet? Think there would be other symptoms if it was salmonella. Very hot humid weather just now and if these birds are confined may be someone local in the know could help. Hope it turns out ok.

 

 

[edwards]

the only reason i asked about the microscope mate is a lot of lads use them and including me self one of the most important tools in my box if you never used one your waisting your time and yes it saves birds lifes . a lot of things lead to birds havin salmonella including mega bacteria which you can see from a mile away under a microscope with the iris completly closed but that doesn matter now limping is not good mate is there wet nests were these birds nest.

[Guest IB]

I don't think it is salmonella, if it was I'd expect your loft would be down with it.

 

Have a closer look at the birds feet. If there is swelling, is there anything like thread caught round the toes restricting them or cutting into them, or any sign of cuts, glass, anything sharp?

 

If it is not injury, then you may be looking at an infection, if the foot is an angry-red colour that's imflammation, and a sign that the bird is fighting an infection of some sort. I've only known one case on p/basics which had similar symptoms, in a fantail cock, and that turned out to be bumblefoot.

 

[Guest dibble]

get them checked for paratypoid / salmonella any swollen or thickening of joints its got to be suspect. and not all birds will show symptons hope this helps

[Guest HighSpeedLofts]

polynuritis  dont know if thats how you spell it give them orange juice they be up on there feet in no time

[Guest stb]

the only reason i asked about the microscope mate is a lot of lads use them and including me self one of the most important tools in my box if you never used one your waisting your time and yes it saves birds lifes . a lot of things lead to birds havin salmonella including mega bacteria which you can see from a mile away under a microscope with the iris completly closed but that doesn matter now limping is not good mate is there wet nests were these birds nest.

  samonella gives pigeons samonella not megabacteria or anything else. birds have to be contaminated with this bacteria from another source ie mice  pigeons that are carriers , contaminated food, etc,

Avian Gastric Fungus - Megabacteria in Birds

Megabacteria are microscopic organisms which are forty times larger than most bacteria. They have at various times been called bacteria, fungi and lactobacilli, but are now deemed to be in a microscopic class of their own.