help with feather rot

[DJ]

i treated my birds for feather rot about 2 weeks ago by dipping them in chlorcarb (from aviform) as i noticed that something seemed to be chewing into the top of their wing flights and they also had some bald patches on their crop and neck areas  i checked my birds a couple of days later and they were all clear of any lice/mites so i assumed that the chlorcarb had worked but i have now noticed that a few of my birds have developed new bald patches on their crops and neck i used chlorcarb as its an insecticide and i assumed that it was some sort of insect that was chewing into their feathers?  im now guessing that its fungal feather rot? any advice would be great as i dont know what to do next?   debbie :-/

[Delboy]

i treated my birds for feather rot about 2 weeks ago by dipping them in chlorcarb (from aviform) as i noticed that something seemed to be chewing into the top of their wing flights and they also had some bald patches on their crop and neck areas  i checked my birds a couple of days later and they were all clear of any lice/mites so i assumed that the chlorcarb had worked but i have now noticed that a few of my birds have developed new bald patches on their crops and neck i used chlorcarb as its an insecticide and i assumed that it was some sort of insect that was chewing into their feathers?  im now guessing that its fungal feather rot? any advice would be great as i dont know what to do next?   debbie :-/

 

Debbie, take a feather from the affected area and send it to your vet for diagnosis. Vaseline smothers any mite that might be there but ask the vet first because it could be fungal, bacterial or something else.

[Bugsy]

Had a problem like this many years ago, looked for a solution for mites that live under the skin and came up with cream for human scabies, it worked a treat. However theadvice fromDelboy is sound as it is always best to seek the pro's advice on issues like these.

 

Ps  bet the scabies cream works though !!!!  

[Guest shadow]

go to chemist and get the medication for scabies works a treat think its called malthion

[Guest]

i treated my birds for feather rot about 2 weeks ago by dipping them in chlorcarb (from aviform) as i noticed that something seemed to be chewing into the top of their wing flights and they also had some bald patches on their crop and neck areas  i checked my birds a couple of days later and they were all clear of any lice/mites so i assumed that the chlorcarb had worked but i have now noticed that a few of my birds have developed new bald patches on their crops and neck i used chlorcarb as its an insecticide and i assumed that it was some sort of insect that was chewing into their feathers?  im now guessing that its fungal feather rot? any advice would be great as i dont know what to do next?   debbie :-/

 

2 other things that can do those things are

if your loft has wire mesh on the doors etc that will do the same to flights

bald chests can be caused by them rubbing against drinkers/feeders

reaching in to try and get feed just out of reach

my mate treated or everything recomended by a vet  

then it was sugested to change drinkes /feeders by a fancier all ok now

[jock3]

try some carbolic soap mate you will find it will help  

[jock3]

try some carbolic soap mate you will find it will help  

or parfin and treat infected area

 

 

[Guest IB]

I think you need to be sure which 'feather rot' you've got, Debbie..

 

Check out this thread from last year, it talks about 3 types of damage, 2 caused by mites and 1 fungal, and gives tests / remedies for them all.

 

http://forum.pigeonbasics.com/m-1180259086/s-0/

 

 

 

[DJ]

i dont think its the wire mesh as u can actually see little nibble lines into the wing flights and the feeders are put into the loft for about an hour when feeding then taken out as i dont want to encourage vermin overnight   ive got some carbolic soap so will give that a try but if that dont work i will try and get some feathers analysed  would i need an avian vet to do that or just a local vet? thanks for all your help   debbie

[Guest mick bowler]

DJ you could be talking about 2 problems here not one. The damage to the flights is likely to be moths at night. They hide in all the crevices on the boxes/perches and come out at night when bird is resting.

 

The bald patches i would guess are down to rubbing against a feeder/drinker, but as someone suggested get them tested in case.

[Guest IB]

i dont think its the wire mesh as u can actually see little nibble lines into the wing flights

 

Debbie, isn't it usually just the breast feathers that are affected by feather mite, the quill breaks off leaving bare patches? A straight line across a flight sounds more like a fret-mark. These show up as a pale white line across feather shaft & vane, and the top of the feather will break off along that line. Nothing to do with mites, everything to do with stress of some sort.

 

 

 

[peterpau]

Ivermectin on the back of the neck will get rid of most parasites internal or external.

I've been using this for some time and wanted some thing differant. I've just used some van veminex from Taylors choice. It certainly seems to have moved the external parasites. Can't help but think the two together would clear everything.

[Guest]

Generaly feather rot on the front of the bird is fungal, I had big problems with this back in the late 70's when I started up and tried all the conventional methods and none worked. The solution I did find however many will condemn I'm sure. I used white spirit, rubbed it in to the infected areas and it worked but took a while for the feathers to regrow but you could see that it stopped the infection. I think though I'm not sure, he'll tell me if I've got it wrong, Bilco told me of it.

[pigeonpete]

http://forum.pigeonbasics.com/m-1247809170/

 

this might help on here? :-)

[Guest IB]

Generaly feather rot on the front of the bird is fungal, I had big problems with this back in the late 70's when I started up and tried all the conventional methods and none worked. The solution I did find however many will condemn I'm sure. I used white spirit, rubbed it in to the infected areas and it worked but took a while for the feathers to regrow but you could see that it stopped the infection. I think though I'm not sure, he'll tell me if I've got it wrong, Bilco told me of it.

 

This thread and the other current one on the board brings a lot of information together which might help folk arrive at solutions. Bilco also mentioned on this forum a while back that the mouthwash Listerine Original, was an insecticide. Its Ingredients include:-

 

Alcohol, Benzoic Acid, Eucalyptol, Menthol, Thymol, Methyl Salicylate, Sodium Hydroxide.

 

I’d thought at the time that it would be down to the action of alcohol which seems to kill almost anything – animal, bacteria, virus, fungus. But part of the insecticidal action may lie with Benzyl Benzoate  mentioned on the other thread :-

 

http://forum.pigeonbasics.com/m-1247809170/

 

which is benzyl ( an alcohol ) + benzoic acid so something very close to Benzyl Benzoate  looks like being in Listerine too.

 

On same thread various 'smother stuff' is mentioned, and I think Listerine and White Spirit might fall into that group too. Don't know if it would take care of eggs though, assuming they don't give birth to live larvae.

 

Lyclear on e-bay is permethrin, which is the same as the Chlorcarb that Debbie has just used.