herbs for worming

[Guest casbri]

anyone know where i can purchase herbs to worm birds with..

thanking you

[pigeonscout]

anyone know where i can purchase herbs to worm birds with..

thanking you

A guy on TV says that humans have been using herbs for 1000's of years and the ones that worked we now call medicines. ;D ;D ;D

 

 

[OLDYELLOW]

i tried that once thought it was a waste of money , i think wormword is willow bark , i used to get it at boddys but i think it was made by columbine but no longer made  :-/

[Guest joshdonlan]

Have you contacted IB?

[Michael J Burden]

I used herbs for this years ago then used the normal tablets. Not a worm in sight in the droppings when I used the herbs but then when I did the medicine there were a few there(few weeks later). It was the last time I put my trust in the herbs.

[jimmy white]

any one remember bo  bo,s herbs ?  a lot of fancies swore by these  

[Guest casbri]

i used to use bo bos herbs long time ago just wonwered if anyone els did them

[Guest IB]

I started a Herbal Wormers thread earlier this year - it didn’t get very far. All of my stuff came from Asda (plants, oregano, thyme sprigs) or Holland & Barret (liquids):

http://forum.pigeonbasics.com/m-1203857369/s-new/#num1

 

I’d also posted in 2006 on a pre-prepared tea that I’d used.  My birds were first tested during Old Bird Season 2007, when they were free of worms. I bought in new stock, and I think I brought in hairworm with them, diagnosed January 2008. Current test is again clear.

 

This thread reminds me that I used to use a herb tea for the birds. I liked this one (Dufke Elite) for two reasons (1) The label actually told you what was in it (2) There were three natural wormers ( a vermifuge ) in it. :-

 

Wormwood: helps fortify, inhibit infection, stimulant, improves digestion, vermifuge-expels intestinal worms.

Tansy (Tanacetum): helps improve digestion, vermifuge-expels intestinal worms.

Bramble: helps fortify and purify the blood

Nettle: said to be an anti-anaemic and blood purifier

White Dead Nettle: reputed to inhibit inflammation

Yarrow: eases cramp and fortifies

Marigold Petals: a laxative and eases cramp

Hazelnut: purifies the blood

Caraway Seed: improves digestion

Garden Sage: inhibits inflammation

Sarsaparilla: slight laxative with general purificative action

St. John's Wort: inhibits infection, calmant action, vermifuge-expels intestinal worms

Thyme: fortifier, inhibits infection, stimulates appetite, vermifuge-expels intestinal worms, eases cramp

Plantain: purifies the blood, emollient

 

Some also said to be laxatives, but didn't notice any effect on droppings.

 

Boddy & Ridewood used to do this tea, haven't done for a few years now. Can't pick it up on the Web either.

 

[Guest casbri]

thanks for info ib

[bluewhiteflight]

type in gary spavin in lancaster  into your search engine he supplies herbs and tests pigeons

[van Roberts]

i dont personally believe in herbs go for the medicine type

[wilkins]

Ib

what would be your weekly scheduale ? water food etc regarding herbs

[Silverdale Lofts]

any one remember bo  bo,s herbs ?  a lot of fancies swore by these  

 

Used them from bo bo and ray ingham never noticed any difference in the pigeons when using them.

[dod grant]

hi there was a wee chinese lad that went to the blackpool show who sold herbs that did the worms he came from dublin but i have not seen him for a while maybe someone on the basis might know of him.

[Guest IB]

Ib

what would be your weekly scheduale ? water food etc regarding herbs

 

Only started 2008 with this:

 

2/3 times per week, in a feeder, a whole lettuce and oregano & thyme (leaves stripped from sprigs) with either kale, spinach, cabbage or cress leaves.

 

Once per week (Saturday night into Sunday, all day Sunday) crushed garlic, 3 weeks out of 4, in the drinker.

 

On 4th week (garlic-free) they get Flightpath probiotic, on the food, usually on Sundays during racing, Saturday outwith it. Advice I got from Merial was to leave a few days clear of garlic before and after probiotic as it can kill friendly bacteria. So I leave a week either side (garlic effects remain active in the bird for 2 days)

 

Also on the 4th week (garlic-free), on the Monday, they get echinacea, elderberry, aloa vera, gingko biloba and St Johns Wort in the drinker.

 

 

[wilkins]

thank you

[REDCHEQHEN]

 

 

On 4th week (garlic-free) they get Flightpath probiotic, on the food, usually on Sundays during racing, Saturday outwith it. Advice I got from Merial was to leave a few days clear of garlic before and after probiotic as it can kill friendly bacteria. So I leave a week either side (garlic effects remain active in the bird for 2 days)

 

Also on the 4th week (garlic-free), on the Monday, they get echinacea, elderberry, aloa vera, gingko biloba and St Johns Wort in the drinker.

 

 

Echinacea needs to be given more than once to be of any benefit - and for not more than 10 days - when I use echinacea I give for 10 days on the trot

 

I can't for the life of me see why you would use St Johns Wort on your pigeons - an anti-depressant (mood lifter) nor ginko biloba - for brain dysfunction

[Guest IB]

 

 

Echinacea needs to be given more than once to be of any benefit - and for not more than 10 days - when I use echinacea I give for 10 days on the trot

 

I can't for the life of me see why you would use St Johns Wort on your pigeons - an anti-depressant (mood lifter) nor ginko biloba - for brain dysfunction

 

Note what you say.  

 

I think you would need to narrow your search for St Johns Wort and Gingko by also adding 'and intestinal worms' to filter out all these Sales sites. As you say, there are various claims for them, beyond those you have mentioned.

 

The important thing for me about Gingko is that it scored highest (5/5) for both taste and effectiveness; and St Johns Wort - although scoring 2 and 4 respectively, and was part of a tea I used to use - still merits caution as it appears to be poisonous in quantity. I have never used more than 2ml of St Johns Wort to 3ltr of drinking water.

[REDCHEQHEN]

I'd rather use the real thing with the dose on the bottle and play safe

I don't think your experimentation is ethical to be honest - have you got a proper doseage for pigeons ?

[Lennut Tar]

I'd rather use the real thing with the dose on the bottle and play safe

I don't think your experimentation is ethical to be honest - have you got a proper doseage for pigeons ?

 

My personal opinion RCH for what it's worth etc, is your being rather a bit harsh on poor old/young IB. Many medications/tonics, which have been used on our birds over the years, have only come about through trail & error by pigeon fanciers (Science & Vet's, can only take you so far) looking for a better way at the time. Some work, some dont, very few of them will actually kill your pigeons thou, for what I have found in my time & if at the end of the day etc you just happen to  learn something new & also become somewhat wiser in the sport I would suggest now, you then, finish up a winner in my view.

Now IB !!!!!!!!!!!! stick at it & when you find the magic potion etc, thinking the way  that you do. Tell me about it (grin grin) & bugger the rest of them here.

Enjoy.